1. Photobucket recently update their Terms of Use and are now requiring a $399/year membership fee in order to share the photos that you host with them on other websites. If you use Photobucket to host your photos and are using a FREE account, none of your photos will show up on other websites. Please upload your photos directly to the forum here and no longer use Photobucket. Click here to follow the discussion topic...
    Dismiss Notice

UCB Hub Project- Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

Discussion in 'HOW TO' started by udallcustombikes, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. udallcustombikes

    udallcustombikes Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,567
    Location:
    Derby, KS
    Another addition for the UCB Hub Project. As with all of my rebuild how-to's, the hub internals have already been cleaned prior to this thread so you can see all the parts without a bunch of 50 year old dried out grease in the way.

    Before beginning have a look over the factory parts diagram, courtesy of classicbicyclefanatics.com.
    [​IMG]


    And the UCB Hub Project cutaway
    [​IMG]


    Here we go!
    [​IMG]

    Begin by removing the locking washer and unscrewing the adjustable brake cone while holding the square end on the opposite end of the axle. You can now remove the axle from the rest of the hub. The cone on the axle is a stationary cone and does not come off of the axle.
    [​IMG]

    The rest of the assembly should slide out of the hub shell.
    [​IMG]

    Remove the arm side dust cap and bearings
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Remove the brake cylinder and the brake actuator.
    [​IMG]

    To disassemble the driver assembly remove the snap ring, roller guide, rollers, and ball bearings from the driving sleeve.
    [​IMG]

    The brake actuator disassembles the same way.

    Pry the dust cap from the other side of the driver and remove the last set of bearings.
    [​IMG]

    Here is what you should be looking at now.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Clean, inspect, and reassemble.
     
  2. reddogrides

    reddogrides

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2010
    Messages:
    7
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    Bravo! :D
    That was very informative to one of the new guys like me. Thank you!
     
  3. Dr. Tankenstein

    Dr. Tankenstein

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    5,700
    Location:
    Marietta, GA
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    Cameron,
    This is an AWESOME thing you're doing here!
    Cudos, brother!


    Cheers!
    Dr. T
     
  4. deorman

    deorman

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    10,395
    Location:
    Fairfax, VA
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    8) Never seen inside a Perry before. :)
     
  5. udallcustombikes

    udallcustombikes Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,567
    Location:
    Derby, KS
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    Well I mounted the hub from above on my Orient Express build and I was NOT happy with it. When riding it would take 1/2 to 1 1/2 rotations of the crank to get any braking action but less than 1/8" rotation to engage the drive after that, so it wasn't "unscrewing". I tore it back down and inspected the inside to make sure I had reassembled it correctly. I found no problems but it still wasn't working. I had an unbranded Perry Two Star that Double Nickle had sent me. It had the bronze brake cylinder like the one shown in the schematic at the top. I swapped it out for the steel shoe cylinder and it fit perfectly but it didn't fix the problem. So I pulled it apart yet again. I decided to swap the Brake Actuator from the donor hub and put it back together. That seems to have fixed the problem but we will see for sure once I throw the wheel back on the bike and take it for a spin later.
     
  6. dougfisk

    dougfisk

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2008
    Messages:
    901
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    I have a few Perry hubs myself. Only one is mounted to a bicycle at present. Let me lnow how your brakes work when you get it back in. I am a little disapointed in mine.

    I was drawn to them for a couple reasons. First, the typically english over-engineering, with the roller sprag driver and the spring-retracted brake shoe. In theory they should operate with less drag. Next, the big beefy form with a retro look curved profile and rich deep plating that looks old school. The downside is the wimpy little brake arm and the weak brake performance (at least on mine). Have you ever seen a skip tooth cog that fits though?
     
  7. udallcustombikes

    udallcustombikes Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,567
    Location:
    Derby, KS
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    That fixed it! Took the Orient Express out for it's "official" photo shoot. While I won't be laying any skid marks with the white tires I will be able to stop.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. cjperry81

    cjperry81

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2012
    Messages:
    46
    Location:
    Lebanon, OH
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    First off thanks for this thread. Its exactly what i needed mid disassembly of my first build. Im stuck pretty early though. The adjustable brake cone.....I cant get that thing off. What do you put on it? I put a wrench on the square end of the axel on the other side but it keeps slipping and im afraid im going to round it off. What do you grab hold of the adjustable cone with since it has those 2 semi circles on it?
     
  9. udallcustombikes

    udallcustombikes Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,567
    Location:
    Derby, KS
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    I used the brake arm to loosen the cone. If you have a vice use it to hold the square end of the axle. I am lucky enough to have been given the spanner shown in the parts drawing, it has a square hole that the axle fits in.
     
  10. cjperry81

    cjperry81

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2012
    Messages:
    46
    Location:
    Lebanon, OH
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    So i put the thing in a vice and even the vice couldnt keep it from spinning. I feel like im getting dangerously close to rounding it off and the threads are getting a little chewed in the process. What do I do now? Is it reverse threaded or something? Im a huge guy and this thing wont budge. It seems like its even tighter now. Nothing spins now. Will a shop be able to do anything with it?
     
  11. udallcustombikes

    udallcustombikes Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,567
    Location:
    Derby, KS
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    I will take a look at my cut away in the morning to make sure I'm not forgetting something.
     
  12. B607

    B607

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2008
    Messages:
    4,214
    Location:
    Findlay, IL
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    I've never owned a Perry hub, but I'm impressed with the roller bearings. Gary
     
  13. udallcustombikes

    udallcustombikes Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,567
    Location:
    Derby, KS
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    I have only ridden on one. Had it on my "Orient Express" build. It rode and stopped well, but it could be quite a bit of work to get it adjusted correctly.
     
  14. cjperry81

    cjperry81

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2012
    Messages:
    46
    Location:
    Lebanon, OH
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    Ok so I took it to a local shop today and it took forever for them to understand what I was explaining but eventually they got it in their vice and it finally came loose. So its pulled apart. This thing is gunked up hardcore. Any advice for removing the dust ring. I tried to pop it out with a screw driver and the ring just appear to start to bend so I backed off.

    Sorry to be so needy. My first build plus this thing looks like it was on the bottom of the ocean based on the internals
     
  15. udallcustombikes

    udallcustombikes Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,567
    Location:
    Derby, KS
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    Take all the parts and soak them in the solvent of your choice overnight. I use gasoline but I DO NOT RECOMMEND it due to the explosion/fire risk. After soaking an old toothbrush will help loosen the stubborn gunk. The soaking will help with the dust cap as well.
     
  16. cjperry81

    cjperry81

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2012
    Messages:
    46
    Location:
    Lebanon, OH
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    This is just a random question out of curiosity. Mine does not have the double star on it but does say Perry B-100 England on it. Is it a slightly sifferent style or does that just mean its from a different time period?
     
  17. udallcustombikes

    udallcustombikes Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,567
    Location:
    Derby, KS
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    I think it is just a year difference. I have only had three of these hubs- my cut-away, my rider, and one for parts. One was marked B-100 ☆☆, one was just B-100, and one was not marked as a Perry at all, just some cross-hatching on the brake arm. All were the same internally.
     
  18. cjperry81

    cjperry81

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2012
    Messages:
    46
    Location:
    Lebanon, OH
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    Ok this is a total noob question. Once i get my hub broken down and everything looks good what is the proper way to lubricate this thing and what do I use? Same question for crank bearings. I have no idea what im supposed to do. Thanks for baring with my extremely rookie question
     
  19. udallcustombikes

    udallcustombikes Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,567
    Location:
    Derby, KS
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    A bicycle isn't like a car or a piece machinery. The revs aren't high so just about any grease will work for these purposes. I use black all-purpose grease, green teflon, grease, white lithium grease, whatever I had close at hand. Some literature from old hubs even said to use petroleum jelly. If you are rebuilding a race bike or a mountain bike that will be seeing a lot of rugged use then a specialized bicycle grease should be used. All the greases I use have their pros and cons, just have to pick the one that is right for your use, climate, and favorite color.
     
  20. cjperry81

    cjperry81

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2012
    Messages:
    46
    Location:
    Lebanon, OH
    Re: Perry Two Star B-100 Rebuild

    Ok im stuck on this hub and need some guidence. Here are the pics I took for the break down. I soaked it in gas like you had mentioned. It was in a safe place dont worry. It cleaned up alot easier although that dust ring still didnt come out on the one end. But here is my new problem.

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page