Starting out early here because there will be some changes for the two mini build-offs this time! Starting with the Muscle Bike Build-Off: 2 classes as before, voted individually, Class 1 stays with the stricter rules from last year: Class 1: Will now be only for rebuilt and refurbished original muscle bikes or accurate reproductions of an original muscle bike in their original sizes. Period correct accessories are encouraged. Class 2: Will revert to the 2 out 3 rule: Must meet at least 2 of the following 3 criteria to be considered a Muscle Bike: 1: Rear tire larger than the front. (wider or taller or both.) 2: Banana seat. 3: Ape hanger bars. You can of course have all three. Time frame will be the usual 3 months: September 1st 2017 to December 1st 2017 Now to the themed Winter Build-Off: Builders will have 2 options, Vintage or Scratch-Built. This is to reflect the two styles of builds that RatRodBikes is famous for and we would like to see more of! Both groups will be voted on together as one. Vintage: Would rather not have a specific date limit on it, but if it is mass produced in China, it probably doesn't belong, think more of Chicago Schwinns, Spaceliners, Elgins, you get the idea... Obviously this could put those outside the USA at a disadvantage, but what about lugged English Raleigh frames or similar? They are everywhere! Start looking around and I am sure most of us could find something old and interesting. Frame modifications are allowed! Scratch-Built: Let's use the Uncle Stretch definition of Scratch-Built: "In order to qualify for a scratch built bike, you have to build it complete. If you use the head tube and bottom bracket from a built bike, that is acceptable, but you have to build the frame. That includes the back triangle." You can use tubing from bike frames, but not previously welded together sections. You can use factory produced forks though! We are seeing a lot of builders stepping into the scratch-built area and want to give them somewhere to play! Time frame will be the usual 3 months: January 1st 2018 to April 1st 2018. Only posting this early due to the changes, we don't want people preparing for one thing only to find out we are doing something else. Please don't skip doing the big build-off just to do these, the big build-off should remain the big event it has always been! Luke.