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OLD OLD FRAME - WHAT IS IT?

Discussion in 'FRESH FINDS' started by DoubleL, Aug 18, 2014.

  1. DoubleL

    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    recently pulled from a shed. more photos to help ID it. Any help appreciated.
     
  3. DoubleL

    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    Freed up the goose neck and the crank bearings. Might be able to rebuild it. (?)
     
  5. kingfish254

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    Man that has a lot of rake to it. I have no clue, but maybe post some detail shots of that compass like chainring and also the different frame joints. That should help the experts.
     
  6. Rockit!

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    What is it? REALLY old is what it is. I think.
     
  7. VR6GTiGuy

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    Your old frame has a lot of features that are consistent with late 1890s to early 1900s frames. The crank/sprocket set up look very close to my 1890s Pierce. Is the frame lugged? That was not a common feature in that time period at least on US made bikes and might mean is is not that early. I sent you a PM.
     
  8. VR6GTiGuy

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    I just looked through some more of my reference material and I see that Sterling had a very thin lug on their late 1890's frames, but the cranks and rear drop outs were quite a bit different than what you have. Could be from that time frame.
     
  9. DoubleL

    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    After some cleanng and sanding off some rust I have found some thin lugging and pretty poor (sloppy) brazing. I will post more photos this evening... Pedals come off from a square allen wrench like opening on end of threaded pedal rod and not from a traditional outside for placement of wrench.
     
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    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    After considerable screwing around I finally got the seat post removed.
     
  11. DoubleL

    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    Very cool! Are they oil ports into the bottom bracket?

    Luke.
     
  13. DoubleL

    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    oil ports...yes. adding a better photo of it.
     
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    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    The lugged frame is visible.
     
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    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    DoubleL Double L's Steel Crank'n Vintage Rustorations

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    Early method of attaching pedals to crank. I used power-blaster penetrant and also used a torch to attempt removal but it preferred to stay attached. Pedals turn freely and will stay with the frame. I ground down a perfectly good 1/4 inch ratchet extension to fit the square hole to no avail. I just twisted off the tip of the ground tool.
     
  19. BackWoodCycle

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    That would be the first patent version of the "lefty" fork xD
     
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    cranks look somewhat Dayton to me..
     

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