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<blockquote data-quote="RustySprockets" data-source="post: 1192925" data-attributes="member: 18664">Looks to be pre-war to me, but I can't identify it further att.&nbsp; I can make a few suggestions, however.&nbsp; First, don't photograph two bikes together--it just makes the image cluttered.&nbsp; Also, it is best to photograph the opposite side of the bike...the so-called drive side.&nbsp; That side reveals the chainring and chain guard that are often unique to a particular manufacturer.&nbsp; And finally, if there is a serial number stamped on this frame, it is almost certain to be under the bottom bracket (the cylinder where the pedals attach).&nbsp; If you can't see one, it is likely flooded by red housepaint.I believe the marking on the kickstand is merely a 'pat apl' stamp--it's of no consequence.The frame looks a bit like this Shelby Traveller.&nbsp; Though the chainring is different, I think yours is a style known to be used by Shelby.<img src="https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/w~wAAOSwJn1fIxL1/s-l1600.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="RustySprockets, post: 1192925, member: 18664"] Looks to be pre-war to me, but I can't identify it further att. I [I]can[/I] make a few suggestions, however. First, don't photograph two bikes together--it just makes the image cluttered. Also, it is best to photograph the opposite side of the bike...the so-called drive side. That side reveals the chainring and chain guard that are often unique to a particular manufacturer. And finally, if there is a serial number stamped on this frame, it is almost certain to be under the bottom bracket (the cylinder where the pedals attach). If you can't see one, it is likely flooded by red housepaint. I believe the marking on the kickstand is merely a 'pat apl' stamp--it's of no consequence. The frame looks a bit like this Shelby Traveller. Though the chainring is different, I think yours is a style known to be used by Shelby. [IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/w~wAAOSwJn1fIxL1/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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