Help Identifying Seats

[Chainmaker2]

I've got these 2 seats both off 52 Schwinnbuilts.. (1 BF Goodrich badged ladies hornet, and a unknown 52 mens straightbar) just trying to identify the makers. I think they may be Troxels but no markings.

 

[Starnger]

I'd say Persons because of the spring bowl shape and the rivets connecting the rails together.

 

[Rustinkerer]

Schwinns usually featured Mesinger seats, on their upper end models. The basic bikes, especially 20" and 24", got "whatever"! At least prior to the debut of the "S" seat! Tough ID if they didn't stamp their name on the pan! ~Adam