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Pic of my weekend haul:
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The badge has a big "C" on it, and "Collegiate" above the C. Has a skiptooth, lucky 7 seat post, tabs for a drop stand, adjustment screws, and a straight downtube. From what I've picked up on this site, the tabs screws and downtube equal 1930s. The tubes bell into the headtube like a Schwinn, but other clues make me rule Schwinn out. I've heard of the Schwinn Collegiate, but I've only seen those from the 60s and 70s. Also, I think that 1/4" of the headtube was cut off sometime in the past, but it looks like it'll still be usable. Can anyone help me fill in the holes on this frame and/or tell me if I've got something wrong?

By the way, the frame was so cheap, I almost felt bad paying the guy for it. Almost.
 
Sears Elgin Collegiate model, mf'd by Murray. These were "value-priced" models, some with fenders as the only sheet metal. Tanks, lights, carriers, etc not stock to keep the price down.
Seldom the innovator, Schwinn adopted a very similar construction method after WWII:
http://sheldonbrown.com/chicago-schwinns.html
 
Besides the the awesome frame, ....the goose neck! slant big hole??BMX Its one of my favorites. I have a couple of them with fat chopper bars
 
The_Black_Monark said:
Seldom the innovator, Schwinn adopted a very similar construction method after WWII:
http://sheldonbrown.com/chicago-schwinns.html
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Seldom the innovator? Balloon tires, and cantilever frame are two I can think of off the top of my head. Do you own any balloon tires or cantilever frame bikes? You can thank Ignaz Schwinn for those. I also find it interesting that your avatar is a stylized "AS". For "Arnold, Schwinn" maybe???:grin: Gary
 
B607 said:
Seldom the innovator? Balloon tires, and cantilever frame are two I can think of off the top of my head. Do you own any balloon tires or cantilever frame bikes? You can thank Ignaz Schwinn for those. I also find it interesting that your avatar is a stylized "AS". For "Arnold, Schwinn" maybe???:grin: Gary
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Schwinn did not invent the balloon tire, or their spring fork (check the 1907 Triumph below). I'd bet $1 that Ignaz saw a similar frame in Europe, drew his version of the cantilever, and filed for the patent in the US. That's an SA in the avatar...darnit, might have to change it :D

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I think everyone knows this picture. This Elgin looks like it has been made into a Whizzer at on time. Don't believe it to be factory original just because it has the tank. They wouldn't have put the long Elgin tank on it if it was going to be a whizzer.
 
FastForward said:
I think everyone knows this picture. This Elgin looks like it has been made into a Whizzer at on time. Don't believe it to be factory original just because it has the tank. They wouldn't have put the long Elgin tank on it if it was going to be a whizzer.
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The Whizzer kit was only ever sold as a factory option on Schwinns and Roadmasters (to the best of my knowledge). Then there was a Whizzer Pacemaker. The engine kits were primarily aftermarket add-ons, so no factory Elgins. The first Whizzer engines were manufactured in 1939 (same year as this Elgin) but very limited numbers were sold before WWII. They didn't really gain traction until the H motor in 1946.

The Elgin tank definitely wouldn't have worked with a gas tank. Speculation is always fun, though. It's possible that somebody just needed a rear wheel, borrowing it from their Whizzer that broke down and pa wouldn't fix.
 
My Collegiate, westfield built! The matching paint Elgin tank was an ebay find. I also had an earlier 30s westfield "Columbus", which had an identical badge other than the name. -Adam
 

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