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You didn't actually pay to have all that stuff re chromed did you?:eek: OUCH!

Oh... OK, now I get it, a car show!!! I thought maybe you rode your new creation over to another factory to case out their Worksman inventory before it closed!:rofl: BTW, sweet ride Chuck!!!:rockout:

Say whaa....:confused: FWIW... I'd go with the dark blue, long reach bars (like the 20's motorcycles), chop the rear fender at the top, and color match the rims... Of course now I'm sending you in a completely different direction, boardtrack racer before it was a boardtrack racer... Hey, you...

EWwwww SHINEY!!!! (Wolverine's brother upon seeing his brother's claws)

I can't really say, took it to a friend's body shop since I knew if I did any major grinding here my overly sensitive neighbors would throw a fit! I don't see that it would be that difficult, sawzaw and a grinder should do it...

Thanks ...Schmancy and "Real Schmancy" is what we're all about here a Mad Beach Mike's Beach Cruisers and Haberdashery...:grin: To be honest I really haven't ridden it much due to my surgeon's orders of no physical exertion as a result of eye surgery. The quick jaunt I took on it before surgery...

Hey Mark any pics from the ride out there?

Is this gonna be done in time for the Dunedin/Honeymoon Island ride on he 8th??? Unfortunately I won't be able to make it, was looking forward to taking the Worksman RS but I can't ride anything for a little while... well a couple weeks any way.:(

Apparently not?

"Second Hint: Wax the bike down with one of the new Car Polishes that don't turn white when they dry. Turtle Wax ICE is one. Ever try to get all that white dried wax out of all the little nooks and crannies that bicycles have? You can't, and it looks bad." That's what the toothbrush in my detail...

So hopefully I can convey it clearly... Is there a standard formula for spoke lengths going from say a 3X to a 4X, and you know what your required length is for the 3X... this is a hypothetical as obviously there wouldn't be any reason to go 4x from a 3X. What's prompting the question is I have...

...was worth $100!? I'd dance all day and into next week at that price... as many times as I could afford any way... He could probably sell the frame and fork for what he paid for the whole bike over and over, and still end up with a killer wheel set.

Wha... a kick stand?:21: If you're referring to a truing stand, this is the first wheels I've laced... wanted to see if I could get past this before investing in a truing stand, maybe even put together a couple more wheels! Of course if you're referring to a bike stand... and alluding to using...

I might attempt that if I could figure out exactly what's centered:21:

Hey Rob & "Monark", I laced up the front (without referring to anything, which proved to be a set back!) in about 20 minutes. Realized I messed something up when the valve hole didn't have the parallel spokes surrounding it. Turns out I started the second side outer spokes in the wrong hole...

I have an Ebay acquisition, a probably late 40's Ward's Hawthorne bee hive springer. It's running ND's front and rear but the rims are not drop center (More flat like the Schwinn rims), it's laced 3X (Which would probably make sense if the spokes are 10 5/8" and it's not being a drop center)...

I got the front rim painted earlier today and just laced it up 4X also with the 10 5/8" spokes, New Departure "D" on the rear and whatever the ND front hub model is (I just went to check but can't read it)... I'm by no means an expert at this stage but after the 3X vs 4X scenario on the rear I'm...

I think the spine/taper scenario pretty much is determined by the crank set you get, the Redline Monster crank set I got was a 19mm/8 spine I believe. I've had the drive side crank arm off like three times to change sprockets with no special tools. As I understand it some of the crank sets...

OK, so that would appear to be the problem, 3X vs 4X that is. So that's exactly what I did, removed the inner spokes (as suggested. Thanks again!), relaced them as over, over, over, under, skip a the first hole, thread the next... Now from a quick eyeball (Notice only one eyeball as I'm going in...

Thanks, I thought I'd heard of 4X and for some reason thought it was the physical "X" pattern of the spokes vs. what spoke paths they were crossing . So without getting too lengthy here, the 4X would be starting the first outer spoke same place (right of the valve) then skip 4 holes (vs. the 3X)...