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i think i've seen these frames referd to as camel back frames,saved from the scrapmetal heap complete with only crankset and chainring,and forks,who knows if these parts are original to the frame but i used them anyway paint chips and all ,flipped some bars,added some chrome wheels and old white walls ,old bent seatpost i had layen around ,that i still need to cut down,, a little chainguard from the private stash pile in the barn,really like this one as is,but seems to be a 24" frame ? year unkown ? anybody know how too date these ? would be a great help ! cheers 8)

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Re: hawthorne trackster..

Actually, a camel back frame doesn't have a second bar under the top tube. That's what we'd call a straight bar frame due to the (mostly) straight 2nd bar. WHile the bowed rear stays remind me of a Cleveland Welding product, looking closely, I think that's a Huffman frame. They had very large rear dropouts. Great save from the scrap heap! -Adam
 
Re: hawthorne trackster..

Camelback is a descriptive name for a frame style with a top tube that flows straight back from the head tube and then takes a dive to its connection with the seat tube. The term goes back to the teens when that frame style became popular as a way to modify the design of a standard diamond frame to produce a lower seating position for shorter riders. At the time the Motobike style was also relatively new and was essentially a camelback with a second top tube. The two terms took root and became universal in the industry to describe the two frame styles.

Straight bar is a later term and is used to differentiate motorbike type frames that use a straight lower top tube from those that don’t, most commonly it separates Cantilever Schwinns from “Straight Bar” Schwinns, from “DX” style Schwinns with scimitar shaped tank apertures.

Many balloon frames are none of the above and while Cantilever is a Schwinn term and innovation everybody swooped in on the design and the term once the patents expired. DX was a model name and never really left the Schwinn lexicon although it is does conjure an image when needed.

This brings us to the bike in question; it is a Cleveland Welding produced bike from approximately 1950-1953. It is a 24” frame and is a style that was not produced in the 26” size. CWC produced true “straight bars”, a variety of “DX” style frames, parallel curved double top tube frames, frames with kinked lower top tubes, and some that are unique to the degree that they follow no other convention.

The frames with kinked lower top tubes were produced beginning in 1936 and continued as a popular CWC frame style until WW2. I refer to this frame style as the “Bent Tank” as the style doesn’t have an official name. The style did not reappear after the war on the 26’ bikes but continued to be produced in the 24” frame size. The dropouts on your bike mark it as one of those produced after 1949 and before frames were again modified around 1954.

As a CWC product it will have a serial number on the bottom bracket beginning with a letter, followed by 5 numbers and a Cw suffix which may also be perceeded by an A or 2 numbers. The serial number should pin down the date of production further. I you post it I’ll translate it for you.
 
As always, I defer to Phil on these matters, he's probably forgotten more than I know! Being a 24" frame made it look different that a typical 26" CWC frame, to my eye anyway! :mrgreen: -Adam
 
Rustinkerer said:
As always, I defer to Phil on these matters, he's probably forgotten more than I know! Being a 24" frame made it look different that a typical 26" CWC frame, to my eye anyway! :mrgreen: -Adam
yep you are right ther Adam,phil certinly seems too have allot of knowledge about this subject ,thank god somebody dose !i thought this frame was just playin tricks on my eyes ,or mabey the wrong forks ,but it's clear what it is now !, thanx guy's for you help and knowledge on the subject! 8) Ralph...
 

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