- Aug 9, 2012
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- Somewhere sunny
Environmental impacts are fair play and good conscientious discussion but be careful we don’t let this devolve into political discussion
. . . Then I was off riding around in my dress white crackerjacks all over town. It was great!
We weren't at a pier, we were anchored out in the harbor, so I had to jump from the liberty boat to the ship's ladder with this thing strapped to my back.
Lithium primary batteries have been used for years in mining drill rigs being sent down the pipe to power sensors etc. Researching and reading the Safety Data sheets confirmed that if they dropped too much voltage they were in danger of self starting combustion. And will continue to burn. Scary thing was because shipping used batteries was so expensive back to manufacturer they tended to accumulate in shipping containers converted to storage.Just for the record, I own an electric boat, and I want an electric car, and I never intended this to be a discussion about politics.
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It’s a discussion about dodgy engineering, and the dangers of mismanaged lithium batteries going into thermal run away.
My major consideration was always the fact that vehicles are extremely prone to be damaged, and a damaged lithium battery pack is a time bomb, if it isn’t already a bomb.
In fact, what generally happens is that a vehicle keeps getting driven as long as it can be repaired economically, but economics have changed.
What generally happens in California is that when a car is damaged so much that the insurance company says it’s a total loss, it gets sold at the wholesale auction as salvage. It gets towed off to Mexico (where the rules are lighter and the labor is cheaper) and it is repaired there and continues a life of service.
It doesn’t take much to total a car nowadays, considering the cost of replacement parts and labor.
I think the same thing will happen with lithium batteries. We will be shipping them away to avoid responsibility for what happened to a pack that was perhaps subjected to extremely high G forces, but never actually ruptured at the time of the accident. Perhaps it’s just waiting for one more cumulative shock to set it off.
I’m afraid we’re going to be shipping around a lot of dangerous items without really good oversight, and with no good way to extinguish a runaway battery.
But I thought this was only a problem with vehicles, until I saw the power banks on fire. Now I realize that this is the sort of product where mis-management of any sort can have terrible consequences, and I’m afraid it will keep me using lead acid batteries for the foreseeable future.