Thanks Guys, Im going to sort this stuff out tonight and get some pictures, have em up in a few days. I just got 6 awesome bikes in trade deals over the last 2 days and have more than I can handle right now. I got a really new Motobecane Team Fly MTB, a vintage all chrome Alpine MTB which I plan to make a sweet townie out of, a red Murray tank cruiser, a blue Schwinn Racer, a green ladies Rollfast 3 speed that I might use the parts off of, and a weird black 30's skiptooth straight bar that appears to have 28 inch wheels. I already have 8 other bikes in my garage. Its getting crazy out there.