NEW RRB FACEBOOK "GROUP"
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I cant see....I cant see! i keep forgetting that im in the minority of people that just don't facebook!
I cant see....I cant see! i keep forgetting that im in the minority of people that just don't facebook!
Join the club!
What are we looking at here? 
Rat Rod
Owner & Founder
Resistance is futile. 
Facebook gives you the capability of starting a "Group." Facebook members can join the group and post photos, comments, videos, etc. to that group and then all of the members see that post within their Facebook news feed. You can then "like" their posts or comment in them.
It ends up working pretty well because most people are staring at their feed all day anyway so they also get to see cool bike stuff pop up inline too if they want to.
Facebook is also a traffic generating monster. I basically went public with the group last night about this time and we've already got 400 members in the group.
Here's a little sample of what the group looks like...
Facebook gives you the capability of starting a "Group." Facebook members can join the group and post photos, comments, videos, etc. to that group and then all of the members see that post within their Facebook news feed. You can then "like" their posts or comment in them.
It ends up working pretty well because most people are staring at their feed all day anyway so they also get to see cool bike stuff pop up inline too if they want to.
Facebook is also a traffic generating monster. I basically went public with the group last night about this time and we've already got 400 members in the group.
Here's a little sample of what the group looks like...
The original RRB FB was a bit like that to start with, but more recently any outside posts are sorta hidden away.
I don't "get" facebook... I'm an admin for a small local cafe.... and I guess we have it set up where customers who post up get squirreled away in the margin, without the pictures showing unless you click on whatever they posted....it's beat. But some folks get over into the mainfeed somehow. And some things posted by admins stay up high in the feed for a long time, whereas other things are flashes in the pan....
Facebook exists solely to mine information about ppl. I always knew that, but it never bothered me (I have very little to hide!) until the page itself got so aggressive about trying to extract info from me. "Robert, your profile is only 12% complete! Robert, where did you go to High School? We have some creepy guesses, based on your friends list" "Robert, where do you work, blah blah"... all coming from the page itself. Too "big brother" for my taste. And, my main occupation is pure EVIL, so I can't put much up on FB about it without risking my job, so.... I lie on FB. Almost constantly.
Facebook exists solely to mine information about ppl. I always knew that, but it never bothered me (I have very little to hide!) until the page itself got so aggressive about trying to extract info from me. "Robert, your profile is only 12% complete! Robert, where did you go to High School? We have some creepy guesses, based on your friends list" "Robert, where do you work, blah blah"... all coming from the page itself. Too "big brother" for my taste. And, my main occupation is pure EVIL, so I can't put much up on FB about it without risking my job, so.... I lie on FB. Almost constantly.
As much bad about and on Facebook as good. What you do with it is up to you.
Let snopes.com be your friend before reposting anything other than pictures.
If you are worried about facehooks snooping, google your own name....frightening,then add some common knowledge, like the city you're in.
Let snopes.com be your friend before reposting anything other than pictures.
If you are worried about facehooks snooping, google your own name....frightening,then add some common knowledge, like the city you're in.
Yeah, they have all those current/previous addresses, relatives, phone numbers n stuff for everyone.... I love it b/c they seem to think I become a new person every time I move, haha. There's 7 of "me" in my immediate area, but I know it's really just me and my dad (same name). Really weird, though, is that my employer put me up for some reason... I guess they think I'm mildly important. Whatever, the only really useful info that came up on google about me is:
First page! Now we're talking.... although, if google really knew anything, they'd be aware that it's Chipotle Garlic Mayo....
Rat Rod
Owner & Founder
Facebook is about marketing....just like a good majority of everything else online these days. These companies need to make money so they do so by making it easier for companies to market their goods to the users. The level of accuracy that Facebook offers for reaching a particular market at a reasonable price is pretty amazing. I've reached 50,000 people with an ad that I created on Facebook for $20 that was targeted at an exact group of people that are into cycling. At one time the only way you could achieve that was through a magazine ad that cost you thousands of dollars.
Facebook "Pages" are used for many different purposes, but marketing is by far the largest. Facebook "Groups" on the other hand are set up mostly for discussion purposes. Not to say that a company wouldn't market products to their "Group", but the functionality of the two are a lot different. It's pretty much like having a forum built in to Facebook. If you already use Facebook then it's just a natural addition to your daily social activities. If someone chooses not to use Facebook then it's of no concern.
At this point in the Internet, I don't think Facebook is any worse than any other activity in terms of data mining. If you have an email account or use a web browser, somebody somewhere is tracking something that you're doing. You'd just pretty much have to never turn a computer on again if your paranoid about being watched.
Facebook has also made many enhancements in their security settings over the years that allows you to control who sees what and what you see as well. Many people don't know about them or never take the time to learn about them. They've had enough feedback/lawsuits from users over the years now that they have been forced into making the privacy settings more robust.
Facebook "Pages" are used for many different purposes, but marketing is by far the largest. Facebook "Groups" on the other hand are set up mostly for discussion purposes. Not to say that a company wouldn't market products to their "Group", but the functionality of the two are a lot different. It's pretty much like having a forum built in to Facebook. If you already use Facebook then it's just a natural addition to your daily social activities. If someone chooses not to use Facebook then it's of no concern.
At this point in the Internet, I don't think Facebook is any worse than any other activity in terms of data mining. If you have an email account or use a web browser, somebody somewhere is tracking something that you're doing. You'd just pretty much have to never turn a computer on again if your paranoid about being watched.
Facebook has also made many enhancements in their security settings over the years that allows you to control who sees what and what you see as well. Many people don't know about them or never take the time to learn about them. They've had enough feedback/lawsuits from users over the years now that they have been forced into making the privacy settings more robust.
I don't get it? Isn't that pretty much the regular Facebook page?
I'm not paranoid.... i'm just plain-ol' annoyed. I get it that, in this day and age, privacy is gone and, most of the time, somebody's watching me. Not just me, but pretty much everyone. Like I said before, i have very little to hide. I'm thinking my biggest recent scandal is the Chipotle Garlic Mayonnaise.
What gets my goat is Facebook's tendency to flaunt this stuff in my face, and harass me about my personal details. It asks me for biographical info that, had i been itching to share it, i already would've. When I lie, it sometimes catches on, and hounds me about it. It won't let me make up an alma mater; it will only allow me to select colleges and high schools that are "registered" with facebook. I guess that makes it hard for real old-timers, whose high schools may no longer exist....
They have all the ads in the margin, and i'm good with that b/c i realize that the internet ain't actually free, and it's paid for by obnoxious ads in margins. But FB makes it extra irritating by listing which of my friends have liked the ad. So, it'll say "WalMaRT: cHEAP cRAP!" and then under that, it says "So-n-So Jones, Whatsisname Smith, and Joe Schmoe like Walmart". Super annoying, and intrusive. Worst of all, it doesn't give me a thumbs-down option. I could handle it a little bit better if other ppl's margins had "Walmart" ads that read "Rob W hates this" under them. But, sadly, no dice.
Beyond the obvious and impressive marketing benefits, FB has been in the news for various social experiments, like where they selected a random group of ppl and only put sad/negative stuff in their news feed, just to see how it impacted their own updates and activities online. Yeah, I guess they're allowed to do that--it's undeniably legal for them to do that-- but it sucks. And, I have as much right to complain about it as they do to pull these shenanigans.
I've tried to kill my facebook in the past, but social/familial/work-related pressures had me go back. And, guess what? Even after I nuked my account, they saved every detail from before and offered to restore it when i returned. Nothing that you delete from FB is gone. Hidden from your wife and mom, maybe, but not from Big Brother. And yeah, i guess that sounds paranoid, except that it's true....and it doesn't make me the slightest bit nervous. It just makes me a little bit nauseous, to think that this is where "human nature" is leading us....We create elaborate websites to spy on one another to feed our collective greed. Sad.
Now, I'm not knocking the RRB facebook page(s)... I think they're the "upside" to this travesty. But I can't just shrug off the price we pay.... forget about privacy; that's long gone. I just could do without the hassle that comes with the spying. REAL spies are discreet.
I too am not a fan of Facebook. For me, it's probably a generational thing. I am 50 and I remember my father telling me to keep my eyes and ears open and to keep my mouth shut and I might learn something. I also have nothing to hide but don't want anybody up in my business. I am also in a law enforcement type job and have access to all kinds of invasive snooping such as Accurint. You would be amazed about the kind of info on you that is out there and very easy to access. Why provide any fodder?
Rat Rod
Owner & Founder
I doubt it will have much of an effect on the forum. If anything, it will probably increase traffic here. I've found that a good chunk of the FB users have never even heard of the forum. They ended up on the FB page or group because they saw a photo that was shared or saw a FB ad and then eventually they discover that there's a forum behind it all.
Rat Rod
Owner & Founder
I don't get it? Isn't that pretty much the regular Facebook page?
https://www.facebook.com/notes/face...etween-a-facebook-page-and-group/324706977130
I got it now!
