Ok so I got my Roadmaster frame from Sonatageek ,and it was this black house paint color.....done with a coarse brush. I'm hearing from everbody that oven cleaner will take off the top layer of paint. So I go in and look in my cabinets for some oven cleaner.....none to be had. Asked my wife about that and she said we have a self cleaning oven. Go figure. Trot down to walleyworld and pickup some orange oven cleaner in a spray can. Smelled good while i was spraying it. The first problem was the 30 mph wind blew some on my face.....nothing at first....wow its starting to burn my skin. A quick wash and no dammage done. Anyway I left it on there for about 20 minutes . It attacked the black house paint and didnt touch the marroon paint underneath. I washed it off with a hose and it took off alot. The second application of it I used a stiff brush about 15 minutes in and it got about 99% of the black off. washed it again and let it dry. I looked at all the original marroon paint with the white darts and orange pinstriping and thought ...Man I can spray some clear on this and it will look really good ....Then I came back to reality....Naaa just buzz it all off and paint it nice. you thought I had changed huh? :roll: Anyway the oven cleaner will work.