I have a blue single speed Raleigh Bomber ( 1978 model i think). It has all its origional parts, but at some point its had the rear wheel removed and the retaining nuts are missing. Could anyone tell me what threads are on the wheel spindles as they appear very fine, and where I could get some replacement nuts? I would also appreciate any advice as to the bikes current value. There are a few small areas of paint peeling off the frame, but generally the condition is good.
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is it a sturmey archer rear hub?
I'd take the wheel to the bike shop to make sure I got the right ones. They shouldn't cost too much.
I had a 70 Phillips 1 speed woman's bike. The blue paint really came out nice after a washing and a couple coats of car wax.
I had a 70 Phillips 1 speed woman's bike. The blue paint really came out nice after a washing and a couple coats of car wax.
I did take the wheel to our local bike shop but because of the age of it they did not know what nuts were needed, nor could they give me any guide to the value of the bike.
When we moved house in the early ninties I had a Raleigh chopper and a small version (not sure if it was a Chipper or Grifter) and thinking they were old and unfashionable took them to the scrapyard. I bet they would be worth a tidy sum now.
When we moved house in the early ninties I had a Raleigh chopper and a small version (not sure if it was a Chipper or Grifter) and thinking they were old and unfashionable took them to the scrapyard. I bet they would be worth a tidy sum now.
are you sure its a single speed? is the rear axle hollow.
the only sturmey archer nuts i've ever had a problem finding, are the unusual size that fits there 3 speed axle/hub.
when ever i need to replace a bolt/nut i usually avoid the bike shop and head dirrectly to the source. here in london i hit facca fasteners. (nuts/bolts retailer)
break out the yellow pages and find a company that makes a living with nuts and bolts.
the only sturmey archer nuts i've ever had a problem finding, are the unusual size that fits there 3 speed axle/hub.
when ever i need to replace a bolt/nut i usually avoid the bike shop and head dirrectly to the source. here in london i hit facca fasteners. (nuts/bolts retailer)
break out the yellow pages and find a company that makes a living with nuts and bolts.
It is definitely a single speed, there is only one sprocket front and back.
I will take your advice and check out the yellow pages as a nut specialist, may be able to help. The thread is too fine for Metric or Whitworth and a different pitch to BSF. Maybe it is an american thread or one specific to Raleigh.
I will take your advice and check out the yellow pages as a nut specialist, may be able to help. The thread is too fine for Metric or Whitworth and a different pitch to BSF. Maybe it is an american thread or one specific to Raleigh.
Jimang said:
a sturmey archer 3 speed internal hub, only has one sprocket but 3 gears.
check to see if the rear axle has a hole through the center (hollow-check chain side of axle)
the hole in the axle is where you'd thread in an index chain to change the internal gears.
sturmey does have a few single speed hubs. the bomber just happens to be a bike available in both the single speed and 3 speed internal hub)
Thanks for the advice, I have checked the sprocket side of the hub and there is a hole only about 5mm deep. I think this was just a machining location for the part. The outer sleeve shown on your picture is not present on my hub, nor the gear changing mechanism. Im pretty sure it is a single speed and I cant recall any modifications made to it over the years. I have taken a photo of the bike and the hub, but for some reason cannot upload them onto my posted reply.
5mm deep would be appox depth if the chain broke from the indexing rod.
that exta piece is a nut(with a hard to find,very fine thread) i always have trouble finding replacement bolts to fit this axle and it is the main reason i'm thinking you have an internal hub.
heres the indexing rod that threads in the axle. (short threaded end/rod goes into the axle)
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/indicatorspindle.jpg
if the chain broke at the rod, you'd be left with approx a 5mm hole in the axle.
heres the crazy wierd thread ya need. (exclusive to sturmey archer three speed hubs)
http://harriscyclery.net/product/sturme ... de-859.htm
there def. the bolts you need regardless of speeds. (even if they used a 3 speed axle with out the internals) but i'm still thinking theres a chance its a 3 speed.
i would look beside the right handbrake on the bike and see if theres any evidance of a shifter mounted to the handle bars. also check for evidance of a cable clamp on the rear stay (sprocket side)
last but not least, look for 2-3 letters stamped on the (sturmey) hub. its actually the model of the hub and with it we can tell you exactly what you have. (a.w. is the most common 3 speed)
those pic's would help greatly.
that exta piece is a nut(with a hard to find,very fine thread) i always have trouble finding replacement bolts to fit this axle and it is the main reason i'm thinking you have an internal hub.
heres the indexing rod that threads in the axle. (short threaded end/rod goes into the axle)
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/indicatorspindle.jpg
if the chain broke at the rod, you'd be left with approx a 5mm hole in the axle.
heres the crazy wierd thread ya need. (exclusive to sturmey archer three speed hubs)
http://harriscyclery.net/product/sturme ... de-859.htm
there def. the bolts you need regardless of speeds. (even if they used a 3 speed axle with out the internals) but i'm still thinking theres a chance its a 3 speed.
i would look beside the right handbrake on the bike and see if theres any evidance of a shifter mounted to the handle bars. also check for evidance of a cable clamp on the rear stay (sprocket side)
last but not least, look for 2-3 letters stamped on the (sturmey) hub. its actually the model of the hub and with it we can tell you exactly what you have. (a.w. is the most common 3 speed)
those pic's would help greatly.
Thanks very much for the info, I think you have solved my problem, I will order the nuts asap. Could not see any evidence of a cable stay, but there is some paint missing near the front brake control on the handlebars, maybe long ago a gear shift was fitted. The bike belonged to my son so perhaps he removed one without me knowing. On checking the hub the letters AW were clearly showing with the number 82. I guess this prooves it to be a 3 speed after all.
Do you have any idea of the current value for such a bike in reasonable condition?
Do you have any idea of the current value for such a bike in reasonable condition?
so ya need a sturmey 3 speed thumb shifter,cable,cable clamps and indexing rod and chain. (along with the nuts) to get the 3 speed up and running.
i'm sure you could find the entire assembly (used) pretty cheap. if you can get hold of the indexing rod, it should turn out easily (usually the pin's break and there should be the last link still attached to the rod)
the aw hub is fantastic. it will be celebrating its 75th year in 2011.
heres some info.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer.html#aw
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer/aw.html
around these parts (ontario canada) old raleighs(1950-1980's) don't fetch much ($20-$100 depending on condition) unless there something special.(mint condition,team bicycles etc)
there is a market for working sturmey 3 speed hubs ($20-$40)
that being said, i have no idea what your bomber is worth, but i imagen its a get what ya can get kinda bike.
i'm sure you could find the entire assembly (used) pretty cheap. if you can get hold of the indexing rod, it should turn out easily (usually the pin's break and there should be the last link still attached to the rod)
the aw hub is fantastic. it will be celebrating its 75th year in 2011.
heres some info.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer.html#aw
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer/aw.html
around these parts (ontario canada) old raleighs(1950-1980's) don't fetch much ($20-$100 depending on condition) unless there something special.(mint condition,team bicycles etc)
there is a market for working sturmey 3 speed hubs ($20-$40)
that being said, i have no idea what your bomber is worth, but i imagen its a get what ya can get kinda bike.
if this is an original bomber, with a blue frame, forks, and bars, it is a super bomber.
this is one of bomberman's bikes, sorry for using the pic.
if it is this good then you'reprobably looking £100+, but its very dependent on condition.
does it still have the blue snake belly tyres? blue on the super bomber
i beleive the blue is not paint, it is a transparent clear plastic over a chrome frame, and the chrome is the important thing.
having said this an average condition super bomber sold for around the £130 mark on ebay the other day, so its the case of what someone will pay.
this is one of bomberman's bikes, sorry for using the pic.
if it is this good then you'reprobably looking £100+, but its very dependent on condition.
does it still have the blue snake belly tyres? blue on the super bomber
i beleive the blue is not paint, it is a transparent clear plastic over a chrome frame, and the chrome is the important thing.
having said this an average condition super bomber sold for around the £130 mark on ebay the other day, so its the case of what someone will pay.
This is the 1 speed SA from my Phillips. Note the squared end of the axle on the drive side. It has the date just like the 3 speed, but the difference is the smaller diameter of the hub shell, and the shape. This is a 1970 hub.
Jimang said:
where abouts are you jimang? i can take that hub to bits, clean and reassemble it for you. i've also got some spares bits.
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