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Looking online for some more ideas on converting a grip shift to a stick shift I came across something called a suicide shift. This was a little doohickey that you reached for on the seat tube to shift a front derailleur. It looks like you had to pull up or push down on the little handle to change sprockets. My imagination took off and now I am wondering if an automotive choke knob could be used as a shifter?
 
Assuming you mean to use the grip shift as a base, you would just need a way to introduce enough friction in the system to hold it in gear against the derailleur spring. If it's an index shifter, it would already have the indexing in place and, if you didn't want it to index, that's an easy change, as well.

Here's what I made for Retro Rocket

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The shifters are attached to a piece of handlebar laterally across the rocket body (originally, the wires for the light switches at the ends of the shifters were supposed to go through the center of it, but that wouldn't work long term). They basically work as normal, I just used a shaft collar on the rotating piece of the shifter and drilled it for the shifter tube to pass through....
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To secure the rotating piece of the shifter which is normally held in place by a grip, I made this doohicky (below) to sit inside the "handlebar" tube:

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The shifter tube passes through the eye bolt (actually a modified thumbscrew) and that's a bearing it's bolted to that allows the shifter to rotate while the tail piece is fixed to a short slot inside the "handlebar" tube with a bolt and that threaded panel clip above (you can see the slots—like elongated holes—in the middle pic, but this doohicky wasn't installed at that point). It could have been bolted to a regular hole, but due to the increased leverage of the shifter over the original design as well as a reduction in friction within the shifter body due to the missing grip and removing a large chunk of the fixed part of the shifter to allow for the shift tube, I also wanted to be able to put some tension on the shifter, so I elongated the holes to allow for some tensioning where the eye bolt pulls the shift tube inwards. If I end up remaking this rocket body in fiberglass, I'll redesign a better tensioner as this one requires a large C-Clamp to set it and doesn't allow for a lot of play. Works pretty well, though.
 
Although it's not recommended bicycle guru Sheldon Brown used a friction down tube shifter on a internally geared 3 speed hub for years with no problems.
I saw a twist shifter rubber grip removed and a seat post clamp on it. The clamp had a piece of all thread screwed into it, then a tube, then a ball screwed on to the top to tighten it all down.
There is also a cornucopia of aftermarket shifters and adapters available, like the HBBC made conversation, it converts your twist grip to a stick, it's pretty slick but it's not exactly cheap either.
 
I was looking at an old rototiller today and noticed the clutch and throttle levers. They both were connected to cables and wondered if something like that would work for a shifter.

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I was looking at an old rototiller today and noticed the clutch and throttle levers. They both were connected to cables and wondered if something like that would work for a shifter.

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Absolutely, if you can get them to hold their selected position. Remember though, most power equipment employs solid "piano wire" cable and no return springs.
 
Yeah, I was thinking about that. Would need to figure out how to connect it to the derailleur.

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The easiest approach is just to substitute modern stranded cable for the solid--who could tell once it's inside old housing? You're still faced with the problem of indexing your shift points, but NOW you've got some groovy old levers to work with!

Now you've gone and done it... I absolutely MUST find a lawnmower graveyard so I can scavenge ratty cables!
 
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i have a post in the how to section...too bad photobucket ate my pictures : (
 
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