Skiptooth ID Help

[Jesse Short Bull]

Hi guys, I need help identifying two bikes pictured below both badges are gone. I scoured the web and this site and just not quite sure. Any help I would appreciate!

 

[Nightrider]

Top one looks like a postwar monark with a colson chainring. Not sure on the second one, but I believe it has a western flyer chainring. Looks prewar, maybe snyder built. I've seen that frame before but I don't remember what it is. Sweet looking frame though!
Johnny

 

[Jesse Short Bull]

Top one looks like a postwar monark with a colson chainring. Not sure on the second one, but I believe it has a western flyer chainring. Looks prewar, maybe snyder built. I've seen that frame before but I don't remember what it is. Sweet looking frame though!
Johnny

Thanks Nightrider, yea man I was thinking the second was western flyer, thanks for the tip on the monark I had not the slightest clue on that one.

 

[Jesse Short Bull]

After looking at the monark thread on this site I'm fairly positive that's what it is. Thanks Johnny.

 

[Jarod24]

Yeah I'd agree top one is monark with a colson chain ring and the second one is a Snyder build. Probably around 36/37 area.

 

[Jesse Short Bull]

Thanks for your help Jarod!

 

[Jarod24]

No problem, nice pick up.

 

[Jesse Short Bull]

Yea man thanks! So just a quick question, do you think that style handle bar is the roll fast texas longhorn style?

 

[Jarod24]

I'm unsure on that, hard to tell in the photo. I think the longhorn ones pull more out to the sides not straight back the ones appear on the Snyder