Just kidding Joe. Ok this is my real project . A some year ,old Hawthorne...not the 5 bar yet. Tried all differant wheels....chrome...black alloy....red ... The red looked the best. The problem is I laced a wheel and tried to save it. Thought it would pass...got a big flat dent messup. So I'm painting a replacement. Really makes a differance in the look of a bike as to what color rims you use. Well I'm moving along with this one and am already excited about the next one.....More later. :wink: