51 black phantom

[Ryan Payne]

i was wondering if this looked legit looks like it may have been restored his asking 600 for it its in good condition I was just seeing if there is anything off just by in the pics.

 

[Wildcat]

Looks like a lot of the bike is added parts. Fenders, seat and wheels aren't 51 Phantom. The other parts might be repop. The bike itself may be a repop. The serial number for a 51 Phantom should be on the bottom bracket and be one of these numbers:

01/02 ------------------ H000667 --------------- H003135
01/03 ------------------ H003136 --------------- H004697
01/04 ------------------ H004698 --------------- H008302
01/05 ------------------ H008303 --------------- H011100
01/08 ------------------ H011101 --------------- H013371
01/09 ------------------ H013372 --------------- H017224
01/10 ------------------ H017225 --------------- H017591
01/11 ------------------ H017592 --------------- H019970
01/12 ------------------ H019971 --------------- H024487
01/16 ------------------ H024488 --------------- H030300
01/17 ------------------ H030301 --------------- H031946
01/19 ------------------ H031947 --------------- H032926
01/20 ------------------ H032927 --------------- H036041
01/22 ------------------ H036042 --------------- H041541
01/23 ------------------ H041542 --------------- H043956
01/24 ------------------ H043957 --------------- H047025
01/25 ------------------ H047026 --------------- H048462
01/26 ------------------ H048463 --------------- H051437
01/30 ------------------ H051438 --------------- H056703
01/31 ------------------ H056704 --------------- H056853
02/02 ------------------ H056854 --------------- H062645
02/05 ------------------ H062646 --------------- H062947
02/06 ------------------ H062948 --------------- H064765
02/07 ------------------ H064766 --------------- H069076
02/08 ------------------ H069077 --------------- H070093
02/09 ------------------ H070094 --------------- H073025
02/10 ------------------ H073026 --------------- H075031
02/13 ------------------ H075032 --------------- H080198
02/14 ------------------ H080199 --------------- H082675
02/15 ------------------ H082676 --------------- H086409
02/16 ------------------ H086410 --------------- H087324
02/19 ------------------ H087325 --------------- H091063
02/20 ------------------ H090164 --------------- H093830
02/21 ------------------ H093831 --------------- H098656
02/22 ------------------ H098657 --------------- H099250
02/23 ------------------ H099251 --------------- H102707
02/23 ------------------ H166581 ------ H166853 - (CT)
02/24 ------------------ H102708 --------------- H105506
02/26 ------------------ H105507 --------------- H105927
02/27 ------------------ H105928 --------------- H109910
02/28 ------------------ H109911 --------------- H115668

03/01 ------------------ H115669 --------------- H116760
03/02 ------------------ H166854 ------ H167354 - (CT)
03/02 ------------------ H116761 --------------- H121489
03/05 ------------------ H121490 --------------- H125458
03/07 ------------------ H125459 --------------- H128475
03/08 ------------------ H128476 --------------- H132403
03/09 ------------------ H132404 --------------- H133782
03/10 ------------------ H133783 --------------- H137727
03/13 ------------------ H137728 --------------- H141813
03/14 ------------------ H141814 --------------- H144335
03/15 ------------------ H144336 --------------- H147408
03/16 ------------------ H147409 --------------- H151230
03/19 ------------------ H151231 --------------- H153981
03/21 ------------------ H153982 --------------- H158170
03/21 ------------------ 6657 ---------------- 7018 - (WZ)
03/22 ------------------ H158171 --------------- H161181
03/26 ------------------ H161182 --------------- H165571
03/27 ------------------ H165572 --------------- H169219
03/28 ------------------ 7019 ---------------- 7738 - (WZ)
03/30 ------------------ H169220 --------------- H173339

04/02 ------------------ H173340 --------------- H174201
04/03 ------------------ H174203 --------------- H175805
04/05 ------------------ H175806 --------------- H178304
04/09 ------------------ H178305 --------------- H180906
04/10 ------------------ H180907 --------------- H181031
04/11 ------------------ H181032 --------------- H183970
04/17 ------------------ H183971 --------------- H186587
04/18 ------------------ H185588 --------------- H187965
04/22 ------------------ H187967 --------------- H188234
04/23 ------------------ H188235 --------------- H190904
04/24 ------------------ H190905 --------------- H192599
04/27 ------------------ H192600 --------------- H194164

05/01 ------------------ H194165 --------------- H197085
05/02 ------------------ H197086 --------------- H198685
05/03 ------------------ H198686 --------------- H200856
05/04 ------------------ 7739 --------------- 8110 - (S-10)
05/04 ------------------ H200857 --------------- H201444
05/09 ------------------ H201445 --------------- H205745
05/10 ------------------ H205746 --------------- H208681
05/11 ------------------ H208682 --------------- H210707
05/15 ------------------ H210708 --------------- H213476
05/16 ------------------ H213477 --------------- H214804
05/25 ------------------ H214805 --------------- H219521
05/28 ------------------ H219522 --------------- H220817
05/29 ------------------ H220818 --------------- H221585
05/31 ------------------ H221586 --------------- H222761

06/04 ------------------ H222762 --------------- H223650
06/05 ------------------ H223651 --------------- H225952
06/06 ------------------ H225926 --------------- H227400
06/08 ------------------ H227401 --------------- H228923
06/11 ------------------ H228924 --------------- H231029
06/12 ------------------ H231030 --------------- H234590
06/13 ------------------ H234591 --------------- H237432
06/18 ------------------ H237433 --------------- H238695
06/20 ------------------ H238696 --------------- H242174
06/21 ------------------ H242175 --------------- H243289
06/26 ------------------ H243290 --------------- H247255
06/27 ------------------ H247256 --------------- H247825
06/28 ------------------ H247826 --------------- H248120
06/29 ------------------ H248121 --------------- H250103

07/03 ------------------ H250104 --------------- H253020
07/05 ------------------ H253021 --------------- H256718
07/06 ------------------ H265719 --------------- H259577
07/12 ------------------ H259578 --------------- H262713
07/13 ------------------ H262714 --------------- H265106
07/17 ------------------ H265107 --------------- H265738
07/18 ------------------ H265739 --------------- H267200
07/20 ------------------ H267201 --------------- H269267
07/24 ------------------ H269268 --------------- H272628
07/24 ------------------ H272629 ------ H273272 - (CT)
07/26 ------------------ H273273 --------------- H273800
07/27 ------------------ H273801 --------------- H275986
07/30 ------------------ H275987 --------------- H277013
07/31 ------------------ H277014 --------------- H279114

08/01 ------------------ H280369 --------------- H281715
08/03 ------------------ H281716 --------------- H283794
08/06 ------------------ H283795 --------------- H286397
08/08 ------------------ H286398 --------------- H298404
08/09 ------------------ H298405 --------------- H299500
08/10 ------------------ H299501 --------------- H302250
08/13 ------------------ H302251 --------------- H305223
08/14 ------------------ H305224 --------------- H307109
08/16 ------------------ H307110 --------------- H309444
08/17 ------------------ H309445 --------------- H312285
08/20 ------------------ H312285 --------------- H314783
08/22 ------------------ H314784 --------------- H316711
08/27 ------------------ H316712 --------------- H319644
08/28 ------------------ H318645 --------------- H322307
08/30 ------------------ H322308 --------------- H326837
08/31 ------------------ H326838 --------------- H330737

09/06 ------------------ H330738 --------------- H334261
09/10 ------------------ H334262 --------------- H335227
09/11 ------------------ H335228 --------------- H338026
09/12 ------------------ H338027 --------------- H338253
09/13 ------------------ H338254 --------------- H339846
09/14 ------------------ H339847 --------------- H341753
09/17 ------------------ H341754 --------------- H343404
09/18 ------------------ H343405 --------------- H346627
09/19 ------------------ H346628 --------------- H347558
09/20 ------------------ H347559 --------------- H352000
09/21 ------------------ H352001 --------------- H352500
09/22 ------------------ H352501 --------------- H352790
09/25 ------------------ H352791 --------------- H354450
09/26 ------------------ H354451 --------------- H356643
09/27 ------------------ H356644 --------------- H359505
09/28 ------------------ H359506 --------------- H359750

10/01 ------------------ H359751 --------------- H363293
10/02 ------------------ H363294 --------------- H363886
10/02 ------------------ H363887 --------------- H365293
10/03 ------------------ H365294 --------------- H367156
10/04 ------------------ H367157 --------------- H368842
10/08 ------------------ H368843 --------------- H372660
10/09 ------------------ H372661 --------------- H374340
10/11 ------------------ H374341 --------------- H377704
10/14 ------------------ H377705 --------------- H380334
10/15 ------------------ H380335 --------------- H380984
10/16 ------------------ H380985 --------------- H384291
10/17 ------------------ H384292 --------------- H384949
10/18 ------------------ H384950 --------------- H389574
10/19 ------------------ H389575 --------------- H394022
10/23 ------------------ H394023 --------------- H395462
10/24 ------------------ H395463 --------------- H400000
10/25 ------------------ H400001 --------------- H403921
10/26 ------------------ H403922 --------------- H407070
10/27 ------------------ H407071 --------------- H408159
10/29 ------------------ H408160 --------------- H409745
10/30 ------------------ H409746 --------------- H411346
10/31 ------------------ H411347 --------------- H412703

11/02 ------------------ H412704 --------------- H415028
11/02 ------------------ A01370 ------------------ A03490
11/03 ------------------ H415029 --------------- H415615
11/05 ------------------ H415616 --------------- H416609
11/05 ------------------ A02491 ------------------- A03601
11/06 ------------------ H416610 --------------- H417846
11/07 ------------------ H417847 --------------- H421135
11/07 ------------------ A03602 ------------------ A06488
11/08 ------------------ A06489 ------------------ A09750
11/09 ------------------ H421136 --------------- H421909
11/10 ------------------ A09751 ------------------ A10602
11/12 ------------------ H421910 --------------- H423030
11/12 ------------------ A10603 ------------------ A16567
11/13 ------------------ A16568 ------------------ A18667
11/13 ------------------ H423031 --------------- H423529
11/14 ------------------ A18668 ------------------ A19648
11/15 ------------------ A19649 ------------------ A27567
11/15 ------------------ H423530 --------------- H424733
11/16 ------------------ A27568 ------------------ A35127
11/16 ------------------ H424734 --------------- H425331
11/17 ------------------ A35128 ------------------ A37987
11/19 ------------------ A37988 ------------------ A40206
11/19 ------------------ H425332 --------------- H427225
11/21 ------------------ H427226 --------------- H428902
11/24 ------------------ A40207 ------------------ A42267
11/26 ------------------ A42268 ------------------ A45258
11/26 ------------------ H428903 --------------- H429484
11/27 ------------------ A45259 ------------------ A49740
11/27 ------------------ H429485 --------------- H430026
11/28 ------------------ A49741 ------------------ A51915
11/28 ------------------ H430027 --------------- H430472
11/29 ------------------ H430473 --------------- H431072

12/01 to 12/03 ------- H431073 --------------- H432234
12/05 ------------------ H432235 --------------- H433570
12/06 to 12/14 ------- H433571 --------------- H437160
12/08 ------------------ A52922 ------------------- A55349
12/10 ------------------ A55350 ------------------- A58712
12/11 ------------------ A58713 ------------------- A62615
12/12 ------------------ A62616 ------------------- A63984
12/13 ------------------ A63985 ------------------- A64354
12/14 ------------------ A64355 ------------------- A65380
12/15 to 12/22 ------- A65381 ------------------- A87593

Still it's a nice cruiser, worth whatever you think it's worth to you. To resell for a profit though, you're taking a risk.

 

[Ryan Payne]

The number is h200617


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[Ryan Payne]

The number is h200617


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That number comes up as a 1959

 

[Wildcat]

Made May 3rd, 1951 if that was from the bottom bracket. The frame and probably forks are 1951. it may be a repainted frame, or original. The serial number doesn't specify the model, like Phantom, just the year. A look at the chain guard would help, to see if it looks old, or fresh, like a repop.

In 1959, H870xxx was the beginning number. the lookup tool doen't work for Bottom bracket numbers. In 52 they went to dropout numbers.

 

[Ryan Payne]

That's about the best I got until I can go look at it

 

[thunderbeard]

Any clue, anyone....? Beuhler...?
Not quite a fixie, not exactly a mtb, kinda bmx... Any i.d. help would be cool. Might pick up later...

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[A.S.BOLTNUT]

Looks like 1995 reissue Phantom to me .