http://newjersey.craigslist.org/bik/1194323757.html
I hope ya'll haven't seen this yet, but it's great!
I hope ya'll haven't seen this yet, but it's great!
Best Craigslist post yet......
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To any And All Sellers of Bikes
PLEASE NOTE: This probably doesn't apply to you. But some of you that are selling need to have a good look.
Everyone has the right to sell their bikes for whatever they want but there needs be a sanity check on those who don't know what they're talking about. I know the economy is bad and you might have found a "jewel" in the rough but, for crying out loud, please do some research.
The following is a guide for those of you who are absolutely clueless about your garage sale or thrift store finds.
1) Just because your bike was made in Europe doesn't mean you've got a winner. They made a lot of junk, too.
2) A low end bike that was $97.00 in 1976 is not magically worth $400 now.
3) Adult bikes do not have goosenecks.
4) If the chain is conspicuously rusty and kinked in the picture, nobody is going to fall for your claims of "mint condition".
5) If you get asked how many speeds it has and do not know nor care, pull your ad. Immediately.
6) Telling us that you found it in a barn is not a rationale for overpricing it.
7) Take OFF the $10 price tag from Goodwill before you take your Craigslist picture and ask $250 for it.
8) "Light and FAST!" . . . Ok, if you say so.
9) Not everything with those kooky, curvy handlebars is a race bike.
10) Neither is a race bike "improved" by flipping those curvy handlebars upside down.
11) Don't be offended if someone offers you an insulting amount that is far less than you want for your bike - they're just smarter than you.
12) Don't get ticked off if someone low-balls you when you state "make offer" in your ad. You asked for it.
13) Tires are tires and wheels are wheels. These terms are not interchangeable.
14) Breaks should be referred to as "brakes", petles or petals as "pedals".
15) Your bike was not made by Shimano, Suntour, or Campagnolo. I know you saw that name somewhere on it, but just trust me on this one.
16) Vintage implies it was worth something when it was new, otherwise it's just OLD.
17) High tensile steel - yeah, they put a sticker on the bike that says it but I wouldn't be bragging about it.
18) Go ahead and repost that 10 speed Huffy every week - no one will tire of its charm. If you're willing to endure the humiliation, we'll be there for you until you reach your target market.
19) ALL CAPS DOES NOT MAKE IT A BETTER BIKE.
20) Pictures of the LEFT side of the bike aren't worth much of anything, nobody can see the drivetrain. All things considered, perhaps you'd rather want to hide it anyway.
21) Blurry pictures add a negative symbol to your price tag.
22) If you steal someone else's photos (not the manufacturer's) from the web and use them to represent your own bike, you are absolute scum.
23) "Suitable for fixie conversion" doesn't make a POS frame any more valuable. For that matter...WHAT makes it suitable?
24) If you think your bicycle is worth a four figure sum ($x,xxx), the LEAST you could do is to spell the brand and component names correctly. (eg. Trek, not treck; Schwinn, not shwin; Campagnolo, not Campagnola; and Shimano - not shmano, shimono, or shamano)
25) Include the size of the bicycle! Measured from the center of the cranks (the big sprocket) to the top of the seat tube (before the silver or black post that holds the seat [saddle].) It needs to be in either inches or centimeters... both if you are nice.
26) NEXT, Magna, Huffy, Roadmaster, and Murray are NOT highly-respected brands. Get over it. 28) There is no such thing as a road mountain bike.
29) Just because you are selling it for a friend doesn't make you an expert if you are not.
30) If you don't list the brand and it is unreadable in the photos, we will assume it is a POS.
31) Research the going price of your bike before posting.
32) Just because it cost a lot 10 years ago when it was brand new and you have barely rode it, doesn't mean it is worth 50% + of new price. (see #31)
33) Just because you bought it within the past year doesn't mean someone is going to pay close to what you paid, especially if the new model years are coming out and yours is now discounted.
34) Don't use terms you do not understand - if it does not have rear suspension, it is not full suspension.
35) Proofread - I have never seen a bike measured in feet but I've seen a lot of 26' bikes posted.
36) If it is an X-mart bike, and you just paid to have it "tuned up", you probably just wasted your money as the tune up was probably more than the bike is worth.
37) No one wants to call for basic information you should have posted or to have you send pictures.
38) Don't sell a used helmet unless you really did just buy it, otherwise it may have been crashed and is a safety hazard.
I hope this has cleared up some things for the cycling-challenged sellers.
To any And All Sellers of Bikes
PLEASE NOTE: This probably doesn't apply to you. But some of you that are selling need to have a good look.
Everyone has the right to sell their bikes for whatever they want but there needs be a sanity check on those who don't know what they're talking about. I know the economy is bad and you might have found a "jewel" in the rough but, for crying out loud, please do some research.
The following is a guide for those of you who are absolutely clueless about your garage sale or thrift store finds.
1) Just because your bike was made in Europe doesn't mean you've got a winner. They made a lot of junk, too.
2) A low end bike that was $97.00 in 1976 is not magically worth $400 now.
3) Adult bikes do not have goosenecks.
4) If the chain is conspicuously rusty and kinked in the picture, nobody is going to fall for your claims of "mint condition".
5) If you get asked how many speeds it has and do not know nor care, pull your ad. Immediately.
6) Telling us that you found it in a barn is not a rationale for overpricing it.
7) Take OFF the $10 price tag from Goodwill before you take your Craigslist picture and ask $250 for it.
8) "Light and FAST!" . . . Ok, if you say so.
9) Not everything with those kooky, curvy handlebars is a race bike.
10) Neither is a race bike "improved" by flipping those curvy handlebars upside down.
11) Don't be offended if someone offers you an insulting amount that is far less than you want for your bike - they're just smarter than you.
12) Don't get ticked off if someone low-balls you when you state "make offer" in your ad. You asked for it.
13) Tires are tires and wheels are wheels. These terms are not interchangeable.
14) Breaks should be referred to as "brakes", petles or petals as "pedals".
15) Your bike was not made by Shimano, Suntour, or Campagnolo. I know you saw that name somewhere on it, but just trust me on this one.
16) Vintage implies it was worth something when it was new, otherwise it's just OLD.
17) High tensile steel - yeah, they put a sticker on the bike that says it but I wouldn't be bragging about it.
18) Go ahead and repost that 10 speed Huffy every week - no one will tire of its charm. If you're willing to endure the humiliation, we'll be there for you until you reach your target market.
19) ALL CAPS DOES NOT MAKE IT A BETTER BIKE.
20) Pictures of the LEFT side of the bike aren't worth much of anything, nobody can see the drivetrain. All things considered, perhaps you'd rather want to hide it anyway.
21) Blurry pictures add a negative symbol to your price tag.
22) If you steal someone else's photos (not the manufacturer's) from the web and use them to represent your own bike, you are absolute scum.
23) "Suitable for fixie conversion" doesn't make a POS frame any more valuable. For that matter...WHAT makes it suitable?
24) If you think your bicycle is worth a four figure sum ($x,xxx), the LEAST you could do is to spell the brand and component names correctly. (eg. Trek, not treck; Schwinn, not shwin; Campagnolo, not Campagnola; and Shimano - not shmano, shimono, or shamano)
25) Include the size of the bicycle! Measured from the center of the cranks (the big sprocket) to the top of the seat tube (before the silver or black post that holds the seat [saddle].) It needs to be in either inches or centimeters... both if you are nice.
26) NEXT, Magna, Huffy, Roadmaster, and Murray are NOT highly-respected brands. Get over it. 28) There is no such thing as a road mountain bike.
29) Just because you are selling it for a friend doesn't make you an expert if you are not.
30) If you don't list the brand and it is unreadable in the photos, we will assume it is a POS.
31) Research the going price of your bike before posting.
32) Just because it cost a lot 10 years ago when it was brand new and you have barely rode it, doesn't mean it is worth 50% + of new price. (see #31)
33) Just because you bought it within the past year doesn't mean someone is going to pay close to what you paid, especially if the new model years are coming out and yours is now discounted.
34) Don't use terms you do not understand - if it does not have rear suspension, it is not full suspension.
35) Proofread - I have never seen a bike measured in feet but I've seen a lot of 26' bikes posted.
36) If it is an X-mart bike, and you just paid to have it "tuned up", you probably just wasted your money as the tune up was probably more than the bike is worth.
37) No one wants to call for basic information you should have posted or to have you send pictures.
38) Don't sell a used helmet unless you really did just buy it, otherwise it may have been crashed and is a safety hazard.
I hope this has cleared up some things for the cycling-challenged sellers.
I'm guilty I call most of my bikes vintage even humble huffy 10 speeds.... 
think we should add, "women's bikes aren't all rare"......
I've seen a ton of "girls version of the stingray.... RARE" lately on a lot of bikes and sites. Plus I found this women who has an Elgin with the skirts,rack, and most original parts trying to tell me she can get 4 figures for the bike when I've bought 2-3 girls bikes from the same era for less than 40 bucks combined. Sorry for my rant..... it's been a long week.
I've seen a ton of "girls version of the stingray.... RARE" lately on a lot of bikes and sites. Plus I found this women who has an Elgin with the skirts,rack, and most original parts trying to tell me she can get 4 figures for the bike when I've bought 2-3 girls bikes from the same era for less than 40 bucks combined. Sorry for my rant..... it's been a long week.
MonsterMetal...
Thanks for the copy and paste. Nothing gets my blood boiling higher than to click on a CL link here and find it's expired or the author deleted it, such as what I just went through. It may seem trivial to click on a dead link but if you visit this forum often enough you'll get what I'm saying.
Thanks for the copy and paste. Nothing gets my blood boiling higher than to click on a CL link here and find it's expired or the author deleted it, such as what I just went through. It may seem trivial to click on a dead link but if you visit this forum often enough you'll get what I'm saying.
Tosa2112 said:
I thought it was only here in the D that so many folks couldn't spell Schwinn. :wink: I was beginning to think that maybe there was an imported knockoff brand called "shwin". It seems like every old bike w/o a brand on it might be an old "Swinn"
voodoo curse said:
I wish (hint, hint, moderators) that they would just delete that stuff, or copy it at least. I'm pretty sick of it myself. As if I don't "waste" enough time looking at bikes as it is... :roll:
PLEASE NOTE: This probably doesn't apply to you. But some of you that are selling need to have a good look.
1. Just because your bike was made in Europe doesn't mean you'vegot a winner. They made a lot of junk, too.
2. A low end bike that was $97.00 in 1976 is not magically worth $400 now.
3. Adult bikes do not have goosenecks.
4. If the chain is conspicuously rusty and kinked in the picture, nobody is going to fall for your claims of "mint condition".
5. If you get asked how many speeds it has and do not know nor care, pull your ad. Immediately.
6. Telling us that you found it in a barn is not a rationale for overpricing it.
7. Take OFF the $10 price tag from Goodwill before you take your Craigslist picture and ask $250 for it.
8. "Light and FAST!" . . . Ok, if you say so.
9. Not everything with those kooky, curvy handlebars is a race bike.
10. Neither is a race bike "improved" by flipping those curvy handlebars upside down.
11. Don't be offended if someone offers you an insulting amount that is far less than you want for your bike - they're just smarter than you.
12. Don't get ticked off if someone low-balls you when you state "make offer" in your ad. You asked for it.
13. Tires are tires and wheels are wheels. These terms are not interchangeable.
14. Breaks should be referred to as "brakes", petles or petals as "pedals".
15. Your bike was not made by Shimano, Suntour, or Campagnolo. I know you saw that name somewhere on it, but just trust me on this one.
16. Vintage implies it was worth something when it was new, otherwise it's just OLD.
17. High tensile steel - yeah, they put a sticker on the bike that says it but I wouldn't be bragging about it.
18. Go ahead and repost that 10 speed Huffy every week - no one will tire of its charm. If you're willing to endure the humiliation, we'll be there for you until you reach your target market.
19. ALL CAPS DOES NOT MAKE IT A BETTER BIKE.
20. Pictures of the LEFT side of the bike aren't worth much of anything, nobody can see the drivetrain. All things considered, perhaps you'd rather want to hide it anyway.
21. Blurry pictures add a negative symbol to your price tag.
22. If you steal someone else's photos (not the manufacturer's) from the web and use them to represent your own bike, you are absolute scum.
23. "Suitable for fixie conversion" doesn't make a POS frame any more valuable. For that matter...WHAT makes it suitable?
24. If you think your bicycle is worth a four figure sum ($x,xxx), the LEAST you could do is to spell the brand and component names correctly. (eg. Trek, not treck; Schwinn, not shwin; Campagnolo, not Campagnola; and Shimano - not shmano, shimono, or shamano)
25. Include the size of the bicycle! Measured from the center of the cranks (the big sprocket) to the top of the seat tube (before the silver or black post that holds the seat [saddle].) It needs to be in either inches or centimeters... both if you are nice.
26. NEXT, Magna, Huffy, Roadmaster, and Murray are NOT highly-respected brands. Get over it.
27. Taking a nice multispeed road bike that was posted here two days ago for a reasonable price, raping it of all good derailleur parts, and making it a single speed with a $22 Chinese bmx cog from performancebike.com does not double or triple its value or make it a "race bike" or "fixie".
28. There is no such thing as a road mountain bike.
29. Just because you are selling it for a friend doesn't make you an expert if you are not.
30. If you don't list the brand and it is unreadable in the photos, we will assume it is a POS.
31. Research the going price of your bike before posting.
32. Just because it cost a lot 10 years ago when it was brand new and you have barely rode it, doesn't mean it is worth 50% + of new price. (see above.)
33. Just because you bought it within the past year doesn't mean someone is going to pay close to what you paid, especially if the new model years are coming out and yours is now discounted.
34. Don't use terms you do not understand - if it does not have rear suspension, it is not full suspension.
35. Spellcheck is your friend, use it.
36. Proofread - I have never seen a bike measured in feet but I've seen a lot of 26' bikes posted.
37. If it is an X-mart bike, and you just paid to have it "tuned up", you probably just wasted your money as the tune up was probably more than the bike is worth.
38. No one wants to call for basic information you should have posted or to have you send pictures.
39. Don't sell a used helmet unless you really did just buy it, otherwise it may have been crashed and is a safety hazard.
40. Chrome Schwinn Paramounts are not "rare." Desired by collectors, perhaps; but there's at least one on eBay every week, if not two.
41. Wheel size (i.e. 26" or 27") does not equal bike size.
42. If you're going to ask hundreds of dollars for a bicycle, at least put some air in the tires
43. If you feel this list doesn't apply to you, it does.
It was reposted to include all the previous numbers.....
1. Just because your bike was made in Europe doesn't mean you'vegot a winner. They made a lot of junk, too.
2. A low end bike that was $97.00 in 1976 is not magically worth $400 now.
3. Adult bikes do not have goosenecks.
4. If the chain is conspicuously rusty and kinked in the picture, nobody is going to fall for your claims of "mint condition".
5. If you get asked how many speeds it has and do not know nor care, pull your ad. Immediately.
6. Telling us that you found it in a barn is not a rationale for overpricing it.
7. Take OFF the $10 price tag from Goodwill before you take your Craigslist picture and ask $250 for it.
8. "Light and FAST!" . . . Ok, if you say so.
9. Not everything with those kooky, curvy handlebars is a race bike.
10. Neither is a race bike "improved" by flipping those curvy handlebars upside down.
11. Don't be offended if someone offers you an insulting amount that is far less than you want for your bike - they're just smarter than you.
12. Don't get ticked off if someone low-balls you when you state "make offer" in your ad. You asked for it.
13. Tires are tires and wheels are wheels. These terms are not interchangeable.
14. Breaks should be referred to as "brakes", petles or petals as "pedals".
15. Your bike was not made by Shimano, Suntour, or Campagnolo. I know you saw that name somewhere on it, but just trust me on this one.
16. Vintage implies it was worth something when it was new, otherwise it's just OLD.
17. High tensile steel - yeah, they put a sticker on the bike that says it but I wouldn't be bragging about it.
18. Go ahead and repost that 10 speed Huffy every week - no one will tire of its charm. If you're willing to endure the humiliation, we'll be there for you until you reach your target market.
19. ALL CAPS DOES NOT MAKE IT A BETTER BIKE.
20. Pictures of the LEFT side of the bike aren't worth much of anything, nobody can see the drivetrain. All things considered, perhaps you'd rather want to hide it anyway.
21. Blurry pictures add a negative symbol to your price tag.
22. If you steal someone else's photos (not the manufacturer's) from the web and use them to represent your own bike, you are absolute scum.
23. "Suitable for fixie conversion" doesn't make a POS frame any more valuable. For that matter...WHAT makes it suitable?
24. If you think your bicycle is worth a four figure sum ($x,xxx), the LEAST you could do is to spell the brand and component names correctly. (eg. Trek, not treck; Schwinn, not shwin; Campagnolo, not Campagnola; and Shimano - not shmano, shimono, or shamano)
25. Include the size of the bicycle! Measured from the center of the cranks (the big sprocket) to the top of the seat tube (before the silver or black post that holds the seat [saddle].) It needs to be in either inches or centimeters... both if you are nice.
26. NEXT, Magna, Huffy, Roadmaster, and Murray are NOT highly-respected brands. Get over it.
27. Taking a nice multispeed road bike that was posted here two days ago for a reasonable price, raping it of all good derailleur parts, and making it a single speed with a $22 Chinese bmx cog from performancebike.com does not double or triple its value or make it a "race bike" or "fixie".
28. There is no such thing as a road mountain bike.
29. Just because you are selling it for a friend doesn't make you an expert if you are not.
30. If you don't list the brand and it is unreadable in the photos, we will assume it is a POS.
31. Research the going price of your bike before posting.
32. Just because it cost a lot 10 years ago when it was brand new and you have barely rode it, doesn't mean it is worth 50% + of new price. (see above.)
33. Just because you bought it within the past year doesn't mean someone is going to pay close to what you paid, especially if the new model years are coming out and yours is now discounted.
34. Don't use terms you do not understand - if it does not have rear suspension, it is not full suspension.
35. Spellcheck is your friend, use it.
36. Proofread - I have never seen a bike measured in feet but I've seen a lot of 26' bikes posted.
37. If it is an X-mart bike, and you just paid to have it "tuned up", you probably just wasted your money as the tune up was probably more than the bike is worth.
38. No one wants to call for basic information you should have posted or to have you send pictures.
39. Don't sell a used helmet unless you really did just buy it, otherwise it may have been crashed and is a safety hazard.
40. Chrome Schwinn Paramounts are not "rare." Desired by collectors, perhaps; but there's at least one on eBay every week, if not two.
41. Wheel size (i.e. 26" or 27") does not equal bike size.
42. If you're going to ask hundreds of dollars for a bicycle, at least put some air in the tires
43. If you feel this list doesn't apply to you, it does.
It was reposted to include all the previous numbers.....
