BG Goodrich and Roadmaster

[marius.suiram]

I have these two bikes.
The men's is badged Goodrich, looks to be 50's. It is repaint, New Departure, Persons seat.
The girls looks to be prewar, original paint.
What's your opinion about the dating and the originality.
Sorry for the dark pictures, I will take better ones tomorrow.

 

[Wildcat]

Nice scores! They have serial numbers on the bottom brackets, should help ID the year. The rack on the CWC looks like it was added, and the bike looks early postwar. On the Goodyear (Schwinn DX), looks like the seat is a repop.

 

[marius.suiram]

Other pictures attached.
The Schwinn has tubular s2 rims with ND coaster brake. The Springer fork is marked AS. Serial number is: F 80203.
The Roadmaster has serial number: F 93003

 

[Wildcat]

The Roadmaster has the Cw to the right of the number.

F would be a 49 Schwinn but needs another digit in the number. Pic from the CABE, says it's a 49.

 

[marius.suiram]

What means the CW?

 

[RustySprockets]

I agree that the Roadmaster is early postwar. My understanding is that the 'Cw' stamping began sometime in 1947 and soon included a letter or two-digit date code--you bike appears to have neither. That sort of narrows it to a contemporary of the men's bike ('47-'49).

 

[marius.suiram]

Thanks guys.
I pumped the tires and took the Schwinn for a ride.
Cool. First time I rode a old ballon.tires bike, even I had a bunch. I like the racing/ touring bikes.
It rides smooth. Needs the rear hub regressed, because the brake is weak, and looks like the axle from the left pedal is a little bent.
Anyway the bike is too slow for me. I will try to find a new house for it.
Somebody on the cabe said that the Springer fork is wrong. What's your opinion?

 

[Wildcat]

A springer was offered in 49. But yours looks like the later version, the bracket that the legs bolt to is different.

 

[deorman]

Not sure when the design was changed from the original locking type, but that is a genuine Schwinn fork. It and the rims may have been replaced at some time, if it had the older style fork it more than likely would have painted rims. Personally, if I had to bet on it, I'd say it's original end of year and the # discrepancy has to do with it being sold as BF Goodrich instead of Schwinn.

 

[Wildcat]

May 05, 1949 is most probably the build date. I think Schwinn left off the first 0 on the number because it wasn't needed. The forward facing dropouts started after the war in 1945, and the letters started with A, so an F serial number, on the bottom bracket like yours, had to be 1949. That's following the listed numbers on the charts starting in 1948. Each letter represented about a year worth of bikes, with F being 1949. I agree with deorman, that springer may have been part of the original bike.

 

[marius.suiram]

Thank you.
Now another question......
What's the value?