Well these trails have been around about twenty years. I am now 42 and started these jumps with freinds . I havent jumped them since the younger generation has now re dug them some . But have been in the woods the last two weekends hitting a smaller six pack and the single bigger practice jump over the guard rail. I did the panasonic king of dirt back in the late 90s and the entire rhythm section is comparable in size and quality to those jumps. I had a KInk freebird 20 " well still have it , but have been jumping on a 24 " and 26 " now so it is a little different , but when i see them i have to try and hit them.