Yeah I moved it first because it does look like a choped stingray. Oh well this was for fun ...With winter setting in it give the shutins something to watch. I'm pretty sure this will get cut up as soon as I'm finished. I learned a little and it gives me a chance to try new things ,design wise. I did learn how to stuff a tire close to the curved seatpost...Something that will come in handy on my real build in a while. :roll: :wink: :wink: