Got a tip on these two on CL from this website. Thanks kingfish254! These are both the same, 5 speeds with band brakes. No front brakes on either. Both were yellow originally so they were probably bought together. One is missing the upper seat stem, I'm hoping it isn't a oddball size. These have one piece cranks, my 85 Dahon has folding style cranks, these cranks don't fold up.