i agree. i love the fresh finds around here and the builds here are not only pretty cool, but id like to do something more, myself. i got this one idea to create a wild tandembike with a two front wheel tricycle with industrial front loader (like an industrial front basket tricycle) cargo basket and maybe even an add on trailer, making this huge train of a cycle i've named the "leviathon"... and another crazy idea for a leftside drivetrain fixie middleweight cruiser. most anything i concider a build always involves a full deconstruction and if new paint is involved, sanded to bare metal then built back up. i never got into the flipped bars and an itching to try the bizzare. :mrgreen: