I Live in Portland OR. A woman in Astoria OR (GOONIES!) advertised these on CL for $75 for both. She said she would drive them to ME for 20 more bucks. Her car skids to a stop this morning at my house and her husband jumps out and YELLS, ;THIS IS NOW HOW I WANTED TO SPEND MY SUNDAY!" He proceeds to throw me a bag of parts and says. "I hope you can put together bikes!" And he speed unloads everything and is OUT! NASCAR pit kinda speeds here. I text her 20 minutes later and offered to mail her 20 more bucks because that ride must have been hell...she just said, Enjoy the bikes! The Van stuff is from a show of early vans, ECONO-Northwest Show. Some of you may have noticed my Econo Bike Transport in the back ground of a lot of my posts. I love that van so very much.