(ORBO) Dead Metal - Video Montage

[GuitarlCarl]

I'm in the Klunkoff!

This is the only pic I have for now, from last fall, thought to be a late 30's early 40's Rollfast. I've always wanted a straight bar. I'll be doing some more research, but I believe I'll be building a "classic" early klunker. More importantly, I'll be bringing this pitted and crusty frame back to life. There's a few ways I can go with the forks, and wheels. What's on it now is just for a mock up, to see how she sits. I think my old cad2 Cannondale is getting nervous...
It's DEAD METAL...

Carl

 

[LukeTheJoker]

Love that frame Carl!

Luke.

 

[RPJ]

klunkoff... is that why you're rushin

 

[B607]

Git 'er done Carl! That's my old frame. Found near Windsor, IL behind an abandoned farm house in a junk pile. The save is on! Gary

 

[OddJob]

Like it Carl! Man, I'm going to drive myself crazy watching this build off from afar. Away from my tools and bike parts, frames, etc for a couple months. And priority when I return is to finish off the inside of BACK40 bike shed before any more builds commence. Love your old frame.....and that cad2 Cann joke...haha! Dead metal indeed

 

[chattymatty]

Dig it. Those old kickstand tabs make for easy derailleur hangers

 

[GuitarlCarl]

Git 'er done Carl! That's my old frame. Found near Windsor, IL behind an abandoned farm house in a junk pile. The save is on! Gary

Yes sir, Gary is a good guy...
Met me part way on the distance, and tossed in another frame! All in response to my quest for a straight bar frame I had posted in the wanted thread. The quest itself started when I tossed the idea for a hill climber, and decided to go full klunker in this build off. Thanx again Gary.

Carl.

 

[GuitarlCarl]

I cut up a set of apes for the bars on CycleDelic...
This is what I have left.


Kinda cool (sort of board tracker tho)
Maybe, just maybe...

May have my crankset and derailleur too, had a TALL Schwinn Traveler given to me today...

37" floor to the top tube!

Carl.

 

[LukeTheJoker]

Those bars look dangerous Carl, not sure I would trust them offroad...

Luke.

 

[GuitarlCarl]

Those bars look dangerous Carl, not sure I would trust them offroad...

Luke.

I was thinking about that. But they just look so cool (kinda boardtracker tho) I had to post them. But...
They're nice and tight. Pretty adjustable too. The weakest point would be the wrist swivel, but it's good for me. I doubt I ever go slamming downhill with it, even though I'd like it to be able to.

Carl.

 

[GuitarlCarl]

I've got to find a BB conversion. I want to go 3 piece. But I did find a nice thumb shifter in my stash and have set my bars and grips up where I think I want them.

I also think I've got my fork and front brakes figured out.


Carl.

 

[GuitarlCarl]

But then again... classic Klunker Hybrid could be cool.

Wald 898 bars would be cut down. I don't want to build a Bomber (coaster) so I need rear brakes, that's whats going to cost me on this build.

Carl.

 

[metalchewy]

But then again... classic Klunker Hybrid could be cool.

Wald 898 bars would be cut down. I don't want to build a Bomber (coaster) so I need rear brakes, that's whats going to cost me on this build.

Carl.

I think the three piece is cool, but that last pic with those bars pointed upward is just great.

Building... riding...

 

[Fv2]

I'm not sure where you're going with the bars, but I do like the look of the left over apes. Even tho I agree with Luke, I wouldn't wanna take them downhill.

 

[GuitarlCarl]

I think the three piece is cool, but that last pic with those bars pointed upward is just great.

Building... riding...

The more I research into klunkers the more I learn towards the Walds as well...

I'm not sure where you're going with the bars, but I do like the look of the left over apes. Even tho I agree with Luke, I wouldn't wanna take them downhill.

Yep, Luke's got a good eye They look cool and are going into the stash...
As she sits, she's got Wald bars, stem and seatpost,
and a Schwinn crank from 74'
All period correct to do a Marin Co. Klunker.

So I cut down the bars 2 1/2" each end, and like the way they feel at just a hair over 26" wide, puts my hands about even with my shoulders. But I gotta find me a longer fork. I'd like to get the chain stays level, that would raise my BB to 12" at the bottom, it's only 11 3/4" at the center now. See the 2x4? It's not quite level yet, and note the rub thru spot above the pedal on the stay... gotta patch that soon.
Did I tell ya why it's called Dead Metal and what the paint scheme/theme was? No?
Haha...

Carl.

 

[GuitarlCarl]

Well this frame may be toast... Oh I can build a cruiser with it, or anything NOT made to bang thru the woods. But if you look at the photo Gary posted, you'll understand. This baby it pitted bad and as I was cleaning it in prep for paint I discovered a few tiny pinholes in the stays. Pinholes I may be able to flow some braising rod into, but I don't know. The more I look the more I find, and I'm afraid of an epic fail first time she comes down hard. Anybody have any experience in this? Phooey, I could build a bike that looks like a klunker... but who wants to do that? I can't weld right now, I don't even have what I need to braise, but I can probably get it... and is that going to help? Do I have to check every bit of pitting and then try to flow some braise into them all? I'm afraid all 4 stays are gonna be Swiss cheese, Klunktastic this isn't...

Carl.

 

[Wildcat]

How thick is the tubing? On my 53 Schwinn, the pitting is terrible on one of the chain stays, but it still has taken a beating and never given out.

 

[metalchewy]

Well this frame may be toast... Oh I can build a cruiser with it, or anything NOT made to bang thru the woods. But if you look at the photo Gary posted, you'll understand. This baby it pitted bad and as I was cleaning it in prep for paint I discovered a few tiny pinholes in the stays. Pinholes I may be able to flow some braising rod into, but I don't know. The more I look the more I find, and I'm afraid of an epic fail first time she comes down hard. Anybody have any experience in this? Phooey, I could build a bike that looks like a klunker... but who wants to do that? I can't weld right now, I don't even have what I need to braise, but I can probably get it... and is that going to help? Do I have to check every bit of pitting and then try to flow some braise into them all? I'm afraid all 4 stays are gonna be Swiss cheese, Klunktastic this isn't...

Carl.

I had one stay on my summer build that I coated over with j b weld and could never use it for a orbo, the whole frame was pitted but not as bad.

If you think it looks weak, I would use it for a cruiser build later on and find something that can take a hop or two on a downhill, or the rough rocky bounce of the trails.

It would be cool to see this frame in this buildoff!!
Just my .02

 

[GuitarlCarl]

Well someday maybe but not now...
But I have another frame...

It's got even worse pitting at first glance...

But it's got way thicker tubes.
Repaint on the way.

Carl.

 

[LukeTheJoker]

Wow! Cool frame, but that is a lot of pitting! Are you sure it is an improvement over the other frame?

Not knocking it, just want the best result for you...

Luke.