now your talking steve. the diamond frame build off was cool but this sounds like way more fun. already got the idea of what i want to do in my head if we go with it. but lets make it interesting and allow frame mods. so it would be a two fold build off all the outlaw builders get their build off and for the rest of us a fun bike to toy with. oh and as a side thought i had insted of a trophy because pixie bikes are cheap to build all that enter their bike into final judging and dont win have to send their bike to the winner lol. naw just kidding but the pics of the winner with a bunch of ratty pixie bikes around would be priceless. as for wheel size i think of a pixie bike as any that has 16" or smaller wheels.