ccr i guess you would have to ride it to understand how borring and normal it is to ride. there is a star nut up underneith that the stem tightens into as well as the normal double pinch bolt so it is not going anywhere. the first one that randy did which is where i got my insperation for this one was a bit sketchy he used the nub sticking out the bottom of a nirve fork for the stem. it works as well and he has had no issues but i like this setup a lot more. you can plan to see me use this more in the future.