just looked on here at the for sale ads were their two very nice old boys tank bikes for $400.00 shipped and no one is jumping on them the one has nice original paint, money has to be tight i have been buying and selling old bikes a few years and most people don't even want a vintage bike unless it has a tank these have big tanks and lights i sold a few things on eBay a wile back some times having to run a few times before it sells kinda like you have to dangle it in front of them ,funny i see newbies asking is this old rusty girls bike worth the $250.00 the guy is asking. come on people wake up theirs some great deals out their, no it may not have the springer you always wanted keep in mind you could always find one later and add it. just saying............ :|