MBBO 20+24 BAD Apple Peeler

Sting Ray Lover · Sep 1, 2024

This is a 1963 24" Schwinn Typhoon frame my brother found in Erlanger KY last year. Serial number C328651. I hope to build an adult sized Krate style 5 speed with it and some of the other parts that he found during his 3 visits to the bicycle hunny hole in Somerset KY. It was painted by someone previously but after some acetone and lots of rubbing the original paint looks fairly nice. I think you can tell the difference in the pictures. It has a lot of scratches but it 61 years old. I have heard people say "It's only original once." I hope once the respray is removed I can polish what's left and start the build. Let the fun BEGIN!

Pondo · Sep 1, 2024

Would 0000 steel wool help get that spray paint off?

Sting Ray Lover · Sep 1, 2024

Pondo said:
Would 0000 steel wool help get that spray paint off?

The spray paint is coming off with a terry cloth, acetone and lots of love. I don't want to take a chance of damaging the original paint any more than it already is. This is going to be a total build starting with just a frame like some of the Step Thru frames others are starting with. Wish me luck! I'm gonna need it.

KJV · Sep 1, 2024

CRASH · Sep 2, 2024

It’s only original once, but you’re not building an original bike. So do what feels right. If you can restore the paint, great. But candy apple red is really an awesome color too, and totally fitting.

CRASH · Sep 2, 2024

I’m assuming you have, or are getting a 26” Schwinn Springer for the 20” front? Are you going to go for an Atom drum brake? Or are you poor like me?

Sting Ray Lover · Sep 4, 2024

CRASH said:
I’m assuming you have, or are getting a 26” Schwinn Springer for the 20” front? Are you going to go for an Atom drum brake? Or are you poor like me?

I will be using a 26" generic springer and a Sturmey Archer Elite VT front drum my brother picked during all those trips to the hunny hole in Somerset KY. I asked him to see if he could find some old bikes and parts near where he live and BAM! 5 car loads of bikes, rims, tires, fenders, parts and tools came from that place. So I asked him to see if he could find any winning lottery tickets. I thought it was worth a shot.

KJV · Sep 4, 2024

Oh yeah,, Pulaski county is loaded with bicycles.

Glad to see ya getting around to building of this frame.
Was thinking about you; when we stop in Berea .. on wsy to Ohio from Somerset.

Looking forward to seeing it when it's finished.

Sting Ray Lover · Sep 4, 2024

KJV said:
Oh yeah,, Pulaski county is loaded with bicycles.

Glad to see ya getting around to building of this frame.
Was thinking about you; when we stop in Berea .. on wsy to Ohio from Somerset.

Looking forward to seeing it when it's finished.

With the things going on in America and the rest of the world right now I'm not going to put tons of money in it but this will keep me occupied. The original paint is not terrible so I'm saving it. I can always paint it later if I want. I have most of the parts so I think I only need a set of taller handlebars, a front tire (which are ordered) and decals.

Sting Ray Lover · Sep 4, 2024

Starting rust removal on these fenders. They are from a Sears Spyder 24" 3 speed girls bike.

KJV · Sep 4, 2024

You need some Cumberland water and clay dirt : clean those up.

Sting Ray Lover · Sep 5, 2024

Removed the kickstand.

Disassembled, cleaned and polished.

Ready to lubricate and reinstall.

Removal and installation tools.

KJV · Sep 5, 2024

You may have to cut and shorten the steer tube about an inch. I have a 24 inch typhoon that I put a 26" Springer on about 20 years ago.. was nothing too the job. Just cut the welds on the steer tube and drop it in the Springer base till fit.. weld it and cut the excess off it's hanging below the Springer base. I don't know that frame of yous msy hsve the longer head tube/ steel tube.
But, I thought about that when I walked past my bicycle a little bit ago coming into the house.

Sting Ray Lover · Sep 5, 2024

KJV said:
You may have to cut and shorten the steer tube about an inch. I have a 24 inch typhoon that I put a 26" Springer on about 20 years ago.. was nothing too the job. Just cut the welds on the steer tube and drop it in the Springer base till fit.. weld it and cut the excess off it's hanging below the Springer base. I don't know that frame of yous msy hsve the longer head tube/ steel tube.
But, I thought about that when I walked past my bicycle a little bit ago coming into the house.

I will need to add a spacer on my frame. Not enough threads on the steerer tube. I have a piece of galvanized 1" pipe that polished like chrome. I'll cut a piece of it and slide it on the bottom of the steerer tube before the bearing race goes on. Took the sturmey front hub and new rim to the LBS so they can make the spokes. Hopefully I will be putting front end together next week.

KJV · Sep 5, 2024

That's a big spacer. It'll be about an inch.

That'l give ya a higher rake
& ya gonna need it if ya gonna run a 20 on front.

KJV · Sep 5, 2024

Another option to that solution:
Die cut in more threadd.
1" 24t

Sting Ray Lover · Sep 5, 2024

KJV said:
Another option to that solution:
Die inmore threadd.
1" 24t

Would have to buy that die and they are expensive!

CRASH · Sep 5, 2024

Sting Ray Lover said:
Would have to buy that die and they are expensive!

My LBS has one. I paid them to cut more threads in once.

KJV · Sep 5, 2024

Sting Ray Lover said:
Would have to buy that die and they are expensive!

bicycle shop can do it. Or if you know a machinist.

That's why I cut the tube and shortened it at the bottom to fit into mine. Was because didn't have a die on hand. But, I have had bicycle shops do them for me, and also a machinist at a time or two. I've had to get a lot them done back in the day when I was messing with bikes more. I would totally strip the step through bikes to use Parts on the men's frames. And the older ones the ladies bikes had longer stems. So, had to run more threads down so they could be used on the men's frame. And then cut off what was left on top in that situation.
A die is only bout $30. Which is pricey if this is the only time you ever plan to use it. I bought one about 15 years ago. Don't ask me where it is at moment.

Captain Awesome · Sep 5, 2024

CRASH said:
My LBS has one. I paid them to cut more threads in once.

Sting Ray Lover said:
Would have to buy that die and they are expensive!

Try The Right Gear over on Church St. They hooked me up in the past

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