I had this guy I know thats on my sons paper route come up to me and say " If your such an awesome bike builder why is your son riding a piece of junk spray painted bike (the GT Dyno VFR) on his route. WOW is all I could think as he was saying this. I just happened to have the bike he was talking about in the back of my truck so I pulled it out and pointed out that it was a project in progress and that we have been taking off the spray paint and leaving the original paint. All he could say was "ahh cool" and walked away. What an .....