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I'd have to remount the tires first, but I really need to check the tubes before I do anything. I may not do 50, but I try to hit 20 at times. I'd really rather put some fresh tires on it to be safe anyway.
SAFFFE? I can't even spell that word properly, let alone practice it's meaning!
At least you get out on the bikes and ride them for real.
Not meaning any offence, but I am assuming you are a bit younger than I, 62 on June 21st.

Most kids from the generation after my son (1980) only ride bikes and do any stunts on their XBOX or PlayStations.

We used to jump dirt mounds as tall as we were in high school on bald slicks.
I mean bald even for a slick.

That's why I said ride it like it is. But that word you used is good too. As long as you still ride man! 😎👍😺
Rob
 
SAFFFE? I can't even spell that word properly, let alone practice it's meaning!
At least you get out on the bikes and ride them for real.
Not meaning any offence, but I am assuming you are a bit younger than I, 62 on June 21st.

Most kids from the generation after my son (1980) only ride bikes and do any stunts on their XBOX or PlayStations.

We used to jump dirt mounds as tall as we were in high school on bald slicks.
I mean bald even for a slick.

That's why I said ride it like it is. But that word you used is good too. As long as you still ride man! 😎👍😺
Rob
HAHAHA!
Thanks.
None taken. Just turned 29 earlier this month!

Yeah, I'm kind of in that same group. My brother had no problem jumping bikes and doing tricks on them, but I've always been the more cautious one when it comes to... well, pretty much everything. I also don't want to mess up my bikes if I can help it. I've already experienced a few good scrapes and bruises from this hobby, which I'd like to avoid if I can help it, especially after this incident last year:
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I can understand wanting to ride something with the tires as is, but the tires are the only part of your bike that come in contact with the ground. If they don't have the right amount of tread, or if they don't have the right amount of grip, or if they pop underneath you, especially at higher speeds, it can turn ugly really quick. Besides, playing it safe means I get to keep working on my bikes more often. That accident pictured above put me out of commission for at least a month or 2, and prevented me from finishing my MBBO entry on time, and I wasn't even going that fast!

If I can fix this bike up, I'll definitely put some miles on it. I just want to do it safely so I get to keep riding it!
 
I can understand your caution man. My comment was more toward the ones that couldn't ride a bike if you were beside them because they never go out and do anything.
I have been seriously injured, neck and back damage, plus I was out of my body for a few seconds in a motorcycle/car accident. (I was on the motorcycle).
At 62, I am a little more cautious than 20 years ago. I just keep forgetting it is not 20 years ago.
Rob
 
Was that fork bent and straightened or did it just break man?
I can see why you are cautious man.
Rob
 
Was that fork bent and straightened or did it just break man?
I can see why you are cautious man.
Rob
Yeah, I had the steerer tube replaced, but apparently the fork and donor tube weren't welded together properly. Broke on my 2nd test ride when I was trying to get it up to speed. Scraped my fingers, knees and elbows pretty bad, and it messed up my wrists real bad too. Luckily I was going straight, because my arms broke the fall for me, and not my head. Note to self: get a helmet soon.
 
If it's not an Elgin, then why does the coaster brake arm have "Elgin" on it? Also, are Alemite fittings those little plugs on the hubs where you can fill them with oil or something? I didn't get a good photo of the one on the coaster brake hub, but if you look at the photo of the front hub, it's got one. Heck, I might be able to take some better photos of those parts today if you can tell me what to look for.
Alemite fittings are grease zerks on the bottom bracket and head tube...Elgin bikes in this period came with Alemite fittings and grease gun.
I can easily see the "Murray-built" aspect of this bike, especially the wheels. They look identical to the wheels on my later '60s model Murrays. I thought they were just replacements until I saw the air-cooled fins on the hubs.
The bike is nearing ~75years old... they've probably been replaced once, twice or a dozen times since :grin:.

Anything branded Elgin are pre-war. Post war the branding was changed to JC Higgins.
I'll ask Dad if he'd let me sand some paint off to check the serial number. It's still technically his bike. Will finding that other letter help determine if it's a '38 or '39?
Yep. But the evolutionary changes date it pretty accurately without serials.
'38-'39 molded 'Y' seat stays; conventional chain stays.
'39-'40 molded 'Y' seat stays; molded mono chain stay.
'40-'41 molded 'Y'seat stays; molded mono chain stay; curved seat tube.
I figure these would've come with a drop stand originally, but maybe getting the tires aired up would tell me whether the kickstand works for this bike or not. Right now, it's too long for the bike, because it'll just tip over the other way with it down.
Look for brand name and/or patent #s on the kickstand. That may give a hint on where it originated.
 
Here are few more detail pictures on the Elgin. I'll save the descriptions for the I.D. & Value thread I've already got going, as I've got a ton of photos to post next.
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I actually got the Elgin rolling under its own power yesterday! I had to tweak the master link on the chain so it'd actually lock together this time, but I was able to use the original skiptooth chain on this bike. Granted, it'd need to be cleaned and lubed again to be at its best, but none of the links are locked up at least. I just took it for a very short ride around my neighborhood, just to assess everything. The biggest issues the bike has right now is that the coaster brake needs a rebuild, and I can't get the handlebars clamped tight enough to prevent them from rotating down with any reasonable pressure applied to them. Seat's not too comfy either, but it's tolerable at least. I left the chain guard and fenders off, both because they weren't original to the bike, and because I just wanted to see how the bike would look without them. The tires are just some freebies I got from a friend, and the tubes were just ones I salvaged from some parts bikes. Not very elegant, but functional.
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I haven't decided how I want to build this bike just yet, but I don't really want to make a board track racer out of it. I know it'd look good as one, I've seen a lot of other folks build similar bikes that way, but that's part of the problem; just about every Elgin/Murray I've seen that's similar to mine seems to have been converted into a board track racer. That just makes me want to go a completely different direction with mine! I've mocked up a few parts on this bike already, but nothing's really clicking just yet. I've have to sketch up some ideas both on paper and in Photoshop before I make any decisions.
 
I guess the $50 I got from selling those 2 mountain bikes last week was burning a hole in my pocket, because on Wednesday when I saw a bike come up for sale for a price I couldn't refuse, well I just had to go and buy it. This, however, is not that bike. It's the bike I bought with that bike. It's a late model ('80s/'90s?) Murray Monterey girls bike. I bought this bike for $10, but I mostly just bought it for the parts, especially the chrome wheels and chainring. Still, I do like the shape of these Murray girls frames, especially without the extra supports between the top and down tubes, so maybe this'll turn into yet another project for yet another day.
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Oh yeah, the tubes hold air just fine, but the tires are struggling to hold the tubes!
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Ok, this was the bike that was easy to post. The next one's going to need 3 separate posts just to fit all the pictures!
 
I was just browsing Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace on Wednesday, as I abnormally do, when I spotted something in an ad from someone cleaning out their garage. Most of what I saw in the one photo (and it was a screenshot of a photo at that,) didn't interest me; just some lawn equipment and a few late-model kids' bikes. But, amongst the bikes in that small photo, I could just make out the shape of a vintage muscle bike. I did a little more digging, and found that the seller posted another ad around the same time with better photos, and sure enough, it was a vintage muscle bike, and one I'd been hoping to own for some time now: a twin tube Hawthorne! I left a message asking what they wanted for the bike, low-key hoping they'd give me a price far outside my budget just so I could get my OCD and bicycle obsession to shut up for once. Plus, the bike was in a town over 2 hours of turnpike-driving away from home, and I really need to be conscious about my non-expendable funds anyway.

Well, I hadn't heard from them for most of the day, so I just ran up to Sapulpa to grab some parts out of storage for the Elgin Dad had just acquired a week ago, and run a few other errands. It wasn't until I got to the storage building that I heard back from the seller, and the price they gave me was too good to ignore, even after factoring in that I'd use up almost a full tank of gas in my Ford Focus just to get there and back. $20. I could've asked them to hold it for me until the next day when I could see it in the daylight, and maybe do some exploring and photography on top of that, but I figured I was already out and about, my car has a hitch-mounted bike rack, my car had enough gas for the trip, and I had enough cash on me to pay for the bike. Why not just go and get it now? So that's what I did.

By the time I got to the seller's house, it was already past 8pm. It's dark, but the seller left the outside lights on so I could get a better look at the bike. I looked at the bike, and while I could tell it wasn't perfect, the frame was straight, and nothing was seized. I got talking to the seller, David, and it turns out that he was the original owner of the bike! He had it since it was brand new back in 1969-1970, and he'd held onto it for that long. He tried getting his kids/grandkids interested in it, but I guess they didn't want it. He didn't want it to rust away, so he figured the best course of action was to sell it to someone who'd fix it up and ride it. It was cool getting to know that the bike I bought had a story to go along with it, and that it survived this long with most of the original parts intact. I loaded up both the Hawthorne and the Murray, then made the long drive back home. I made it home right around midnight, with a grin on my face and another new project bike in my stable.

Normally when I'm looking for a project bike, I'm looking for something I can customize in a multitude of ways. I like removing correct parts, adding "incorrect" parts, fabricating a custom tank, and adding wild paint colors and graphics to my custom builds so they stand out from both their stock counterparts, as well as other custom bikes. This bike has such a unique look already going on as it is, that the only thing I can think to do with this bike is to give it a different paint job, preferably a color other than red. I want to clean up the rust and repair or replace whatever needs it, but aside from paint and tires, I think I'll keep the modifications on this bike to a minimum. Of course, I could always change my mind, but for now, I think I'll keep this one simple and easy.

Now, on to the photos!
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Mazdaflyer's gallery page has three Murray built Elgins in it. All definitely not boardtracker in style. One is Elgin badged without the Alemite fittings.

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Here is a dizzle frame that shows the Alemite zerks on the BB as well as the hole in the head tube for the other.

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Mazdaflyer's gallery page has three Murray built Elgins in it. All definitely not boardtracker in style. One is Elgin badged without the Alemite fittings.

Sports Elgin

Here is a dizzle frame that shows the Alemite zerks on the BB as well as the hole in the head tube for the other.

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Just took a look at them. I definitely like how he built his. Not sure that's how I want to build mine, but I like how he built his.

Okay, that's what you were talking about. I wasn't sure at first, since I never owned a bike with Alemite fittings before. This is literally my first ever prewar bike, so I'm somewhat out of my element here. So, since mine doesn't have those fittings on the bottom bracket, does that mean that my bike is not an Elgin, or is there like a 50/50 chance it could have been an Elgin, based on the wheels, or does it even really matter?
 

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