Bike from the Dead's Mockup Mash

[Bike from the Dead]

As nice as those first mockups turned out, I still had a few more ideas I wanted to explore on my X-53 yesterday. I wanted to see how the bike would look with white accents, so I threw on a white seat and some Wal-Mart whitewalls. I figured I could make a hot rod-styled klunker, but those Wal-Mart tires just looked too small for this bike.

Even though I wanted to build a klunker, I decided to see how the bike would look in street trim. I threw on a different set of handlebars, replaced the black bottom bracket parts with chrome, added some old white pedals, and put a 26" x 1.75" whitewall up front and a 26" x 2.125" Jerald slick whitewall out back. Suddenly, my previous mockups didn't look as good as they did before.

Just to take it a step further, I threw on some ape hangers just to see how they'd look. It turns out, they look perfect on this bike! I was all geared up to make this X-53 into an off-road bike, but this has "old school hot rod" written all over it!

I was all geared up to mock up a few more parts white these wheels and tires, but I feel like that won't be necessary now.

I did mock up one more idea this evening though. I wanted to give the line from the twin bars a place to go, and I figured I could modify a sissy bar to make a nice rear rack. I think it totally works!

I also though that I might use a white banana seat along with the horizontal sissy bar, but I think the regular white cruiser seat will work just fine.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

As nice as my last mockup on the X-53 looked, I really wanted another klunker to ride out on the gravel trails. I also wanted to make use of as many black-painted parts I had on hand as possible, and I had a few more ideas to achieve both of those goals. I took advantage of the cooler weather this morning and mocked up a few more parts.

And I got to say, I'm glad I did. First, I switched to blackwall tires (1.75" up front, 2.125" out back,) on black wheels, and installed a black chainring and crank off a Huffy Cranbrook I had laying around.

I also toyed around with some red handlebar grips to go with the red scallop on the frame.

If I can remove them without damaging them, I'd really like to use these red Western Flyer grips, since this X-53 would've been sold through Western Auto.

My last mockup involved swapping out the big and little blackwall tires for a matching pair of 26" x 2.125" "redline" tires. I think this is the look right here. The lines add just that much more color on an otherwise black bike.

I'm really happy with how this turned out. It's got a sort of "dual-sport" vibe going on, where I could ride this both on the sidewalk as well as on gravel.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

Got more mockups to share!

I decided to play around with this Murray 3-speed road bike and see if I could build it into something I like. Admittedly, I'm not a big fan of these skinny-wheel road bikes as they just feel kind of generic to me, but I've a few customs built out of these bikes that I like, so I figured it was worth experimenting with.

Most of last Thursday was spent just taking the bike apart. Had a funny moment where the chain broke my chain breaker.

And I don't know what happened to this front brake bolt, but it's definitely seen better days.

I couldn't get the fork off, but I decided to play around with a few ideas. I wanted to fit some balloon tires on this bike, but the biggest tires that could fit were some middleweight tires I had. There might be enough room for some 1.95"-wide Thick Slicks, but I don't have those.

Still, I had a few ideas to make it into either a BMX-style bomber, a "lightweight" stripped-down cruiser, or maybe even a klunker, but nothing's really stuck so far. Most of my mockup process just involved swapping handlebars.

While I like beefier tires on my bikes, I did acquire a matching pair of perfectly good 26" x 1 1/2" Kendas that I'd like to use on something. I tried throwing one on a skinny wheel, but I could not for the life of me get it to mount to the wheel. This wheel had a 26" x 1 3/8" tire on it that came off just fine, but this one wouldn't go on even without a tube inside! Anyone know what the problem may be?

That's as far as my mockups got with this bike. I haven't figured out what I want to do with it yet, but I'll play around with it some more later.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

It's an incredibly minor mockup, but while I was picking up a few more bikes and parts from storage, I decided to see what this JC Higgins I got a couple months ago would look like with a chrome rear rack to go along with the one up front. Personally, I think it helps give the line from that front rack a place to go, and it balances the look of the overall bike.

The only problem is that it's still not enough to help me decide what to do with this bike. It's a very nice bike, but I really don't want more "factory-original fluff-up" projects right now, especially not in red (I already have 2 factory red bikes I'm freshening up already.) I also don't want to strip this bike and repaint it my way, as the original paint and patina looks too good on this bike for that. I could part it out and hold onto what I want and sell or trade the rest, but I'm not sure I want to do that either. I can worry about that later.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

The next bike I mocked up earlier this week was a bike I originally bought for parts I needed to fix up my grandpa's AMF-built Western Flyer. I actually like the shape of these earlier AMF/CWC step-thru bikes, so even though it was just meant to be a parts donor, I still figured I might do something with the leftover parts.

When I was reassembling the bike, I noticed the bottom of the headset wasn't quite as circular as I thought. I don't know if the frame was damaged or not, but only one bearing cup was going to fit there: the original.

Although, I can't say it was a perfect fit. Who thought it was a good idea to leave no room for the bearing cup on this frame? I might be able to make it work, but I don't know.

I was originally thinking of building up this bike as more of a stripped-down street bomber, but when I learned that I could squeeze a 2.125"-wide tire inside the fenders, I decided to see how it'd look with fenders and a different chain guard first.

I've got to say, I love the look! It's not as wild as my usual ideas, but I think this bike looks good with only a few subtle changes. I love the other chain guard, especially when it sits low enough to continue the line the top tube provides. I'll need to weld a mounting tab to the frame to keep it in place, though, as the original chain guard wrapped around the seat tube. The best part of this mockup though is the look of those 2 balloon tires filling up the fenders.

As cool as the balloon tires look on this AMF, they just barely fit. It doesn't help that the front fender brace looks to be a little too long, as the fender doesn't sit quite right. I might be able to fix that though by just making the axle hole a little longer.

The back end is more of a puzzle. I don't know if the fender braces or the frame's rear triangle is the issue, but no matter how I tried to adjust the wheel, the right side always had less clearance than the left side.

The front brace could probably be opened up enough to clear the tire, but it squeezes against both sides as it is right now.

There isn't a ton of clearance on the left side of the rear tire, but there's certainly more than on the right side.

I really didn't want to sacrifice the look those balloon tires gave this bike, but I could not turn either wheel without the tires rubbing against the fenders. I couldn't even get the rear wheel on without deflating the tire first. I wasn't quite sure how to make this work, but I had an idea...

 

[Bike from the Dead]

I mocked up my new idea earlier today. First, I used a narrower set of wheels to help pinch in the tires more.

Second, and more importantly, I used a pair of 26" x 2.125" "Walmart whitewalls" I've been sitting on for a while. Not only do these tires have a rounder profile than the other tires I had mocked up before, but they're also not as wide as other balloon tires. They're still wider than a set of 1.75"-wide middleweight tires though, so they still manage to fill the fenders fairly well without rubbing as badly as the other tires!

All that's left to do as far as this mockup goes is to make a few slight adjustments to the fenders and maybe the frame to help clear the tires that much better. I haven't decided on paint schemes yet, but I feel like this bike needs something vintage and mellow. This isn't some wild and crazy custom bike; it's just a nice, classic cruiser, and I want something to reflect that.

 

[BartRidesEternal]

I mocked up my new idea earlier today. First, I used a narrower set of wheels to help pinch in the tires more.
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Second, and more importantly, I used a pair of 26" x 2.125" "Walmart whitewalls" I've been sitting on for a while. Not only do these tires have a rounder profile than the other tires I had mocked up before, but they're also not as wide as other balloon tires. They're still wider than a set of 1.75"-wide middleweight tires though, so they still manage to fill the fenders fairly well without rubbing as badly as the other tires!
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All that's left to do as far as this mockup goes is to make a few slight adjustments to the fenders and maybe the frame to help clear the tires that much better. I haven't decided on paint schemes yet, but I feel like this bike needs something vintage and mellow. This isn't some wild and crazy custom bike; it's just a nice, classic cruiser, and I want something to reflect that.

I haven't properly catched up lately, but seeing the mockups on this page: The blackwheeled, red-headed klunker bike and now this blue and pink lady, I really enjoy looking at those mockups. Beautiful!

 

[Bike from the Dead]

I haven't properly catched up lately, but seeing the mockups on this page: The blackwheeled, red-headed klunker bike and now this blue and pink lady, I really enjoy looking at those mockups. Beautiful!

Thank you Bart! I didn't originally plan on making that X-53 into a klunker, but I'm glad I did. As for the pink wheel on my AMF step-thru, that's only because I had the matching silver rear wheel (and also the matching pink front wheel) on another bike I'm mocking up.

I'd really love to use some chrome or maybe even some color-matched wheels on this AMF. The wheels I have on are just to test things out. Once I trace everything in Photoshop, it'll all match.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

Whipped up a few digital mockups of my AMF Pilot step-thru bike last week. I don't know if I can find some brown and cream tires that'll fit this bike right, but If I can, I'd really love to paint up this bike in a blue, brown and cream motif! I just don't know which shade I like best...

This could also work well with a nice sage green in place of blue.

And while grey or silver isn't my favorite choice for this bike, I still think it works.

I tried coming up with a few designs that could still make use of the whitewall tires I have, but I'm not sure I've found a color combo I like just as much if not better than the blue, brown and cream paint schemes pictured above.

I still have a few more ideas for paint schemes for this bike, but I like most of what I came up with so far.

 

[Wildcat]

I mocked up my new idea earlier today. First, I used a narrower set of wheels to help pinch in the tires more.
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Second, and more importantly, I used a pair of 26" x 2.125" "Walmart whitewalls" I've been sitting on for a while. Not only do these tires have a rounder profile than the other tires I had mocked up before, but they're also not as wide as other balloon tires. They're still wider than a set of 1.75"-wide middleweight tires though, so they still manage to fill the fenders fairly well without rubbing as badly as the other tires!
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All that's left to do as far as this mockup goes is to make a few slight adjustments to the fenders and maybe the frame to help clear the tires that much better. I haven't decided on paint schemes yet, but I feel like this bike needs something vintage and mellow. This isn't some wild and crazy custom bike; it's just a nice, classic cruiser, and I want something to reflect that.

If that's an "H" at the beginning of the serial number, it's a 58 model.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

If that's an "H" at the beginning of the serial number, it's a 58 model.

Cool! Yes, that is definitely an H. Is there a good serial number reference for AMF bikes? I've got a few more bikes that I'd like to look up.

 

[Wildcat]

There's some doubt and I've seen two different serial number analysis, but the best I have seen is here: This shows the Earlier CWC along with the later AMF. After 1963 is guessing but should follow the pattern, omitting O and maybe Q.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

Earlier this month, I continued my Mockup Mash with a rusty prewar Monark I got at Haysville earlier this year. I originally thought it was a Murray, but after looking for build ideas on Google and the forums, I learned I had something arguably even less common than a Murray from the same era.

On day one, I felt it'd be cool to build this Monark as a step-thru board track racer, but I wasn't exactly sure how I wanted to build it.

After throwing on a few parts, this bike started to look better fully built-up than it did stripped down.

That didn't stop me from trying for a more stripped-down look though.

Day one produced some interesting ideas, but I still had several more parts to mock up a couple days later...

 

[Wildcat]

Earlier this month, I continued my Mockup Mash with a rusty prewar Monark I got at Haysville earlier this year. I originally thought it was a Murray, but after looking for build ideas on Google and the forums, I learned I had something arguably even less common than a Murray from the same era.

On day one, I felt it'd be cool to build this Monark as a step-thru board track racer, but I wasn't exactly sure how I wanted to build it.
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After throwing on a few parts, this bike started to look better fully built-up than it did stripped down.
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That didn't stop me from trying for a more stripped-down look though.
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Day one produced some interesting ideas, but I still had several more parts to mock up a couple days later...

The headtube has a more laid back angle than most step thru frames.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

The next day, I started off with arguably my craziest idea for this bike: I threw a lowrider fork on it! While I'm not a big fan of the twisted bits, I honestly kind of dig the stance the fork gives this Monark. It looks fast, especially with the flipped handlebar! Something else I only noticed as I began editing this post is that the chain stays and the lower part of the fork legs seem to share the same angle, and the angle of the twisted truss rods seem to mirror the angle of the top tube! I'm not as into lowrider bikes as I am lowrider cars, but honestly, I think this bike could change my mind. I mean, with this setup, the top tube comes down as low as the axles! You can't get much lower than that with a 26in bike! Honestly, I think I like this idea more now than I did when I initially mocked it up over a week ago...

I also threw on some ape hangers, but I don't really like them as much as the lower bars.

After mocking up my Monark as a lowrider, I went the opposite direction and tried mocking it up as a BMX-style klunker. Can't say I was feeling it though.

I kept playing around with it more, but I just couldn't find the look I wanted.

I may not have quite figured out how I wanted to build this bike that day, but I still had even more parts to mock up a little bit later...

 

[Bike from the Dead]

The headtube has a more laid back angle than most step thru frames.

It kind of does, now that you mention it.

 

[musclebikemadman]

Got more mockups to share!

I decided to play around with this Murray 3-speed road bike and see if I could build it into something I like. Admittedly, I'm not a big fan of these skinny-wheel road bikes as they just feel kind of generic to me, but I've a few customs built out of these bikes that I like, so I figured it was worth experimenting with.
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Most of last Thursday was spent just taking the bike apart. Had a funny moment where the chain broke my chain breaker.
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And I don't know what happened to this front brake bolt, but it's definitely seen better days.
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I couldn't get the fork off, but I decided to play around with a few ideas. I wanted to fit some balloon tires on this bike, but the biggest tires that could fit were some middleweight tires I had. There might be enough room for some 1.95"-wide Thick Slicks, but I don't have those.

Still, I had a few ideas to make it into either a BMX-style bomber, a "lightweight" stripped-down cruiser, or maybe even a klunker, but nothing's really stuck so far. Most of my mockup process just involved swapping handlebars.
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While I like beefier tires on my bikes, I did acquire a matching pair of perfectly good 26" x 1 1/2" Kendas that I'd like to use on something. I tried throwing one on a skinny wheel, but I could not for the life of me get it to mount to the wheel. This wheel had a 26" x 1 3/8" tire on it that came off just fine, but this one wouldn't go on even without a tube inside! Anyone know what the problem may be?
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That's as far as my mockups got with this bike. I haven't figured out what I want to do with it yet, but I'll play around with it some more later.

Did you get this figured out? The bead seat size 40-584 need s to match. The 26x 1 3/8 is often a Schwinn /British size tire for use on the S-5/S-6 rims. I don't have any of my 1 3/8 bikes here Ill check the bead diameter when I get a chance but I guarantee it is not 40-584.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

I tried a few more Monark mockups last week, mostly playing around with 24" front wheels and forks, but nothing really clicked for me. This may be one of those projects where I need to trace over it in Photoshop and get everything to be the same color in order to really see the potential of this bike. It's kind of hard to make an accurate judgement on how a bike looks when everything's a different color.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

Did you get this figured out? The bead seat size 40-584 need s to match. The 26x 1 3/8 is often a Schwinn /British size tire for use on the S-5/S-6 rims. I don't have any of my 1 3/8 bikes here Ill check the bead diameter when I get a chance but I guarantee it is not 40-584.

I haven't played around with that wheel and tire since I mocked it up back then.

It wasn't just Schwinn and British bikes that used 26" x1 3/8" tires. This Murray came with them originally, and in fact, basically all skinny wheel bikes, at least in the U.S., used them in the 1950s-1970s. So in theory, those tires should fit any wheel meant for 26" x 1 3/8" tires.

 

[musclebikemadman]

I haven't played around with that wheel and tire since I mocked it up back then.

It wasn't just Schwinn and British bikes that used 26" x1 3/8" tires. This Murray came with them originally, and in fact, basically all skinny wheel bikes, at least in the U.S., used them in the 1950s-1970s. So in theory, those tires should fit any wheel meant for 26" x 1 3/8" tires.

Bead diameter is the important number. Not all 26 x 13/8 are the same tires