First project--Murray faux Spacerat (new pics 3/27)

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Finally got the bones to start my first REAL rat bike project, moving up from the 20" Stingrat stuff. Thanks to GTCOMA for the trade:

murrframe01.jpg


It's a 1992 Murray Westport, which seems essentially the same as the Monterey. I've been putting stuff aside for this as I came across it... here's a few pieces that may be on the finished product:

murrparts.jpg


Of course, when it showed up on the front porch today, I couldn't just drag it to the basement and let it sit... I had to start bolting stuff on. This is a VERY preliminary mock-up... nothing has even been cleaned, just stuck together to see if these parts would actually work:

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Those horrible wheels and tires are the only 26s I have around without scavenging my mountain bike, my wife's mountain bike, or the '41 Firestone Pilot I have here. That's a 3-speed hub, at the moment this thing has NO BRAKES (and no chain anyway so it doesn't really matter). Hopefully I can find a donor 24" mountain bike soon to use the wheels to get these bad boys mounted up:

murrmock02.jpg


My goal is to eventually get this to look like a Spaceliner-type tank/light bike, either finding an old tank or making/faking one and putting a rack on it. My main inspiration was ponytailmike's immensely cool Higgins/Murray Super Deluxe. I have no idea which way the drivetrain on this bike will go... I have a complete 10-speed front freewheel system waiting to be robbed off a functioning Ross Europa, but then brakes will be a problem. The easy solution is a 3-speed coaster, but that's expen$ive and I don't want to give up on hand brakes yet. I have 2 ideas for getting around this... one involves these big V-brake conversion plates that get clamped to the frame and forks, and the other is this set of crazy long-reach sidepull brakes called Odyssey 1999s that look like they just might reach around a 24x3 if I can make up drop bolts a la Sheldon Brown's site...

--rick
 
Re: Fresh canvas, first project--Murray Westport

Wow! that was quick. Those tires will look cool. I just put a 24"x3" Kenda Flame on my Rocket. How does that seatpost fit?
 
Re: Fresh canvas, first project--Murray Westport

Am I the only one who can't see the pics? :?
 
Re: Fresh canvas, first project--Murray Westport

dangit. why does that happen? i got red x's at work this morning, but then I right clicked them and chose "show picture" and it worked... I have no idea why...

--rick
 
Re: Fresh canvas, first project--Murray Westport

Nope, no pics...Kelly
 
Re: Fresh canvas, first project--Murray Westport

w00t! scored a set of 24" mountain bike wheels and a rack at my LBS today... he has this phenomenal junk pile in the back room that I've been raiding every so often. Mounted up my 24x3 Kendas and this is the result so far:

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(here's a direct link to the pic in case there are red X issues... http://home.comcast.net/~rwurtz/images/murr24-02.jpg

I'm shooting for a look like a cross between ponytailmike's Murray and an original Spaceliner-type middleweight. I think I'm gonna paint a bunch of stuff silver: the "tank" :wink: , the body of the rack, and the chainguard (a different one I'm putting on, actually). I'm trying to figure out a front for the tank and incorporate a light, and that thing on the rack is going to be more integrated into the rack, if you can imagine that.

Drivetrain plans have kinda taken a different turn. The front freewheel system is on hold, and I'm officially looking for a Sturmey 3-speed coaster hub, because I HAVE to use this little shifter I got from superstuff on a trade:

murr24-03.jpg


http://home.comcast.net/~rwurtz/images/murr24-03.jpg

The issue now is that the tires are REALLY close, both front and rear. Close as in eveything turns but everything rubs a little at some point or another. I'm wondering if I can "shave" the edges of the tires a little... the edges of the tread are really thick solid rubber that comes to a point, which is what rubs the frame. But I definitely have the basic look I was going for, now it's time to start working out details...

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http://home.comcast.net/~rwurtz/images/murr24-04.jpg

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http://home.comcast.net/~rwurtz/images/murr24-05.jpg

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http://home.comcast.net/~rwurtz/images/murr24-07.jpg

Any tips on how to squeeze or massage frame/fork tubes for just a wee little bit extra clearance?

--rick
 
Re: First project--Murray faux Spacerat (updated 3/8)

I like where you are going with this bike. The big tires look great. If they are Kenda Kraze, you can try shaving the edges off with a razor blade so they fit better..
 
Re: First project--Murray faux Spacerat (updated 3/8)

hey ParkNRDL
i gotta say looking good
i love those old murray drop outs that come to a point
as far as tweaking the frame i split the rear cross bars
and added about a half inch to my frame
although you may be able to
A. spread the frame where it is rubbing and mabye rob a wide mountain bike fork
B. try to true the wheels to almost perfect (best choice if only rubing in spots)
or
C. shave the edges on the tires(my last resort)
my tires clear by mabye an eight of an inch on each side of the tire
i'm loving your build :D
it's got that muscle car look :D
keep it up

ponytailmike
mike
 
Re: First project--Murray faux Spacerat (updated 3/8)

Wow , that looks mean! Tank looks like a "ram air" scoop, nice.
 
Re: First project--Murray faux Spacerat (updated 3/8)

sking1973 said:
Are you using Dust-Buster parts for your tank and luggage rack?

I wondered when someone would notice that and call me on it... :lol: yes, I've been racking my brain trying to come up with other stuff that can be built into a tank, and that popped out at me while I was in a thrift store. $2. y'all can laugh at me now...

vac01.jpg


http://home.comcast.net/~rwurtz/images/vac01.jpg

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http://home.comcast.net/~rwurtz/images/vac02.jpg

Thanks all for the comments. I'm still trying to come up with a light that will mate with the opening in the front of the tank, but the feedback from you guys has me thinking... I don't want to leave the front of the tank WIDE open like that, at the very least I'll put some sort of grille or grating over it. It does have a kind of muscle-car ram-air look to it...

Hey, remember the hoods on like '68 and '69 Camaro and Nova Super Sports? Not the cowl induction one, but the one with 8 little square chrome vents with grates in them... maybe I could find some little grilles like that...

(btw, it hurt to take a razor blade to those pretty tires, but shaving the edges off really makes a difference...)

--rick
 
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