Re: Phantom of the OCC - now the 'Zündapp Phantom'
Wicked cool forks and wicked cool bier. What more could you ask for?
Wicked cool forks and wicked cool bier. What more could you ask for?
Phantom of the OCC - now the Schwinn Black Phantasm
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Re: Phantom of the OCC - now the 'Zündapp Phantom'
Thanks Vinny, this idea has been 'rolling' around in my head for years. It's inspired HEAVILY by modern chopper frames, like this one.
I've got a bunch of cool parts bought for this bike that will remain 'under the covers' until I'm able to get back to it.
Unfortunately, I've got 4-5 bikes that need serviced/designed/restored/built before I can get back to this one.
But have no fear, it will come together. Which reminds me, does anyone have a 22.2mm fork they'd like to donate? Balloon, middleweight, lightweight, it doesn't matter. I need the steer tube only.
Cheers,
Dr. T
Thanks Vinny, this idea has been 'rolling' around in my head for years. It's inspired HEAVILY by modern chopper frames, like this one.
I've got a bunch of cool parts bought for this bike that will remain 'under the covers' until I'm able to get back to it.
Unfortunately, I've got 4-5 bikes that need serviced/designed/restored/built before I can get back to this one.
But have no fear, it will come together. Which reminds me, does anyone have a 22.2mm fork they'd like to donate? Balloon, middleweight, lightweight, it doesn't matter. I need the steer tube only.
Cheers,
Dr. T
Re: Phantom of the OCC - Ignaz was NOT impressed
Well, the Zündapp fork just wasn't 'right' for this bike.
Granted, it is cool, but it is a little too upright which brought the front tire too close to the BB.
It WILL be used.......someday.
So, OK Doc, then what's your plan?
Well, like I said in my original post, this one will make the Schwinn purists cringe. I needed to push the front wheel forward, so how about a 'Schwinn-style' springer? Good idea, but would the current design of these forks (whether isn't an inexpensive eBay fork or a not so inexpensive unit from Nirve or Felt) work? meh.
I remembered that the springers from the late 40s - earlier 50s had an offset on the steer tube and the legs didn't bolt straight through them (like on a Krate), they had a bracket on the legs that the bolt went through. AH HA! That's it, I'll start searching for one.....
Now, enter the Tin Machine.
I've always admired the bikes that Tin Machine has (either for sale or in his collection). So I reached out to him to keep a look out for one of these types of springers. You guessed it! Within a week, I had just the fork I need. I'll spare you the details, but let me say 'for the record' TM is one of the best guys I've had an opportunity to exchange emails and ideas with, let alone, purchase parts from. He is just a great guy, if I make it to Tallahassee or if you make it to Atlanta buddy, the beverages are on me!
OK, I'll shut up now and get to the updated pics.
front 3/4 shot:
See how it kicks that front wheel out?
Bonus #1, a 24 x 3 Fatti-O fits without ANY fork mods!
Bonus #2, now a 175mm crankset will fit (probably going with a 160mm unit though)
Bonus #3, my favorite, this stem fits! I've wanted to use this 4-bolt double unit from the start, now I can!
One last side view.
That how she sits....for now.
Cheers,
Dr. T
Well, the Zündapp fork just wasn't 'right' for this bike.
Granted, it is cool, but it is a little too upright which brought the front tire too close to the BB.
It WILL be used.......someday.
So, OK Doc, then what's your plan?
Well, like I said in my original post, this one will make the Schwinn purists cringe. I needed to push the front wheel forward, so how about a 'Schwinn-style' springer? Good idea, but would the current design of these forks (whether isn't an inexpensive eBay fork or a not so inexpensive unit from Nirve or Felt) work? meh.
I remembered that the springers from the late 40s - earlier 50s had an offset on the steer tube and the legs didn't bolt straight through them (like on a Krate), they had a bracket on the legs that the bolt went through. AH HA! That's it, I'll start searching for one.....
Now, enter the Tin Machine.
I've always admired the bikes that Tin Machine has (either for sale or in his collection). So I reached out to him to keep a look out for one of these types of springers. You guessed it! Within a week, I had just the fork I need. I'll spare you the details, but let me say 'for the record' TM is one of the best guys I've had an opportunity to exchange emails and ideas with, let alone, purchase parts from. He is just a great guy, if I make it to Tallahassee or if you make it to Atlanta buddy, the beverages are on me!
OK, I'll shut up now and get to the updated pics.
front 3/4 shot:
See how it kicks that front wheel out?
Bonus #1, a 24 x 3 Fatti-O fits without ANY fork mods!
Bonus #2, now a 175mm crankset will fit (probably going with a 160mm unit though)
Bonus #3, my favorite, this stem fits! I've wanted to use this 4-bolt double unit from the start, now I can!
One last side view.
That how she sits....for now.
Cheers,
Dr. T
Re: Phantom of the OCC - Ignaz was NOT impressed
That is flowing very will with the frame! Glad to see an update on this bad boy!!!!
That is flowing very will with the frame! Glad to see an update on this bad boy!!!!
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Re: Phantom of the OCC - Ignaz was NOT impressed
Wow, that's awesome!
Wow, that's awesome!
Re: Phantom of the OCC - Ignaz was NOT impressed
Thanks guys!
There's more mixing of old and new to come!
Cheers,
Dr. T
Thanks guys!
There's more mixing of old and new to come!
Cheers,
Dr. T
Re: Phantom of the OCC - Ignaz was NOT impressed
Looks nice!
Don't hate me, but the first thing that came to me when I saw the profile pic was,"If the seat stays on the OCC frame were moved up to the top tube of the cruiser frame, that would look really clean."
What I was thinking of.....
Can't wait to see this finished!
Looks nice!
Don't hate me, but the first thing that came to me when I saw the profile pic was,"If the seat stays on the OCC frame were moved up to the top tube of the cruiser frame, that would look really clean."
What I was thinking of.....
Can't wait to see this finished!
Re: Phantom of the OCC - Ignaz was NOT impressed
Sits lean and mean...I like it!! 8) 8)
Sits lean and mean...I like it!! 8) 8)
Re: Phantom of the OCC - Ignaz was NOT impressed
If you do go the route that moleman suggests, it could be done very similarly to the way I did the front forks on Fugsley, but the opposite direction.
If you do go the route that moleman suggests, it could be done very similarly to the way I did the front forks on Fugsley, but the opposite direction.
Re: Phantom of the OCC - Ignaz was NOT impressed
Tank,
I found the perfect pedals for you on ebay.
Tank,
I found the perfect pedals for you on ebay.
Re: Phantom of the OCC - Ignaz was NOT impressed
Only just found your thread Doc! Impressive work! Just shows how much time you can spend on this site and still find gems you somehow missed along the way...
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Luke.
Only just found your thread Doc! Impressive work! Just shows how much time you can spend on this site and still find gems you somehow missed along the way...
Looking forward to more... Subscribed!
Luke.
