TRADITIONAL 🅵🅾🅾🅻🅸🅶🅰🅽 - 1930s Elgin Oriole - 2nd Place (Tie) - BUILD JOURNAL

[Dr. Tankenstein]

Just tested the Jesse James tank as well.

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YES! YES! YES!

 

[Bike from the Dead]

This is shaping up nicely! That latest chain guard is cool. I also like the butterscotch / caramel grips.

Looks like your garden cherub approves as well!

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What if you used that bread pan as a dummy single-cylinder engine where you can hide a water bottle inside? It looks like you'd have enough room to make it fit.

 

[Bike from the Dead]

Different votes for each of these chainguards. "Pee Boy" hasn't made up his mind either, but he is ready to celebrate Memorial Day.

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#1 for me. The Columbia chain guard's too bulky, like you said, and the JC Higgins guard is too straight. It looks off on such a curvy frame.

 

[kingfish254]

Thanks for all of the comments and votes on the 3 guards. I'll keep them in mind.

In the meantime, I decided to try another experiment today with a Monark rack.

 

[kingfish254]

And in a more bizarro experiment, I even mocked up one as a chainguard

 

[kingfish254]

Which fed the madness to a more extreme idea. I've had an idea of making a tank out of these for a long time. But what about an encased chainguard? Of course it would have to be sliced up to fit much farther back, but this is the closest I could test with a tape mockup. It's kinda hard to take this experiment seriously, but I had to tape it up and see.

 

[marshall hudson]

Love that chainguard idea. Was at a swap meet once,saw a couple frame on the ground. I went to check them out and a similar rack was laying on top. I actually thought it was a guard for a sec. Rat ingenuity at its finest.

 

[Pondo]

That's wild! Very creative and looks killer!

 

[The Renaissance Man]

This reminded me of a Monark rack turned chainguard on a customer's TRM Convertible bike from a few years back. But it was sliced, diced and combined with a Monark guard using only the top surface. He used the same forks also!

 

[BartRidesEternal]

Which fed the madness to a more extreme idea. I've had an idea of making a tank out of these for a long time. But what about an encased chainguard? Of course it would have to be sliced up to fit much farther back, but this is the closest I could test with a tape mockup. It's kinda hard to take this experiment seriously, but I had to tape it up and see.

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Love the ingenuity there, that looks great. You could hide an motor in there.

This reminded me of a Monark rack turned chainguard on a customer's TRM Convertible bike from a few years back. But it was sliced, diced and combined with a Monark guard using only the top surface. He used the same forks also!

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Gorgeous

 

[kingfish254]

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From that angle, #3 looks amazing. However the bottom edge fights the lines of the frame. If you cut out the red cheese-grater portion (I know, blasphemy), that guard would look bananas on that frame.

If you're opposed to chopping guard #3, I'd choose #1 or #2. I prefer #2 (as the design sits) but can see the potential of adding other components for weight balance if you choose #1.

I don't mind doing some slight filing to make the bugeye tank fit, but no way would I consider slicing up an original paint Jet Flow chainguard. I could get the same effect by carving a Cranbrook guard.

YES! YES! YES!

Sorry brother. While the jesse james tank looked great with the black nanner, I just didn't like it all with this frame. Some future build possibly.

What if you used that bread pan as a dummy single-cylinder engine where you can hide a water bottle inside? It looks like you'd have enough room to make it fit.

That idea (minus water bottle) or even slicing these in half and making two cylinders have been in my thoughts ever since I bought these at the yard sale years ago.

This reminded me of a Monark rack turned chainguard on a customer's TRM Convertible bike from a few years back. But it was sliced, diced and combined with a Monark guard using only the top surface. He used the same forks also!

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I don't remember seeing that one, but that is a killer looking build. Great use of the section of the Monark rack, but I don't care much for the angle of it. He does make it flow with the guard well.

 

[kingfish254]

For this to work right in my mind's eye, this assembly would need to shift back a good 10".

That would put it about 1.5" forward of this mockup. That would allow the cheese grater vents to clear the chainring completely, but would keep the assembly from completely covering the unique extended downtube curve that sticks out in front of the BB.

 

[The Renaissance Man]

It looks cool centered with the BB like you have it! But you might want to check it against the chainring before you get too deep into the idea. It would probably have to be raised up considerably to cover the chain. Just a thought.

 

[kingfish254]

It looks cool centered with the BB like you have it! But you might want to check it against the chainring before you get too deep into the idea. It would probably have to be raised up considerably to cover the chain. Just a thought.

Yes, it would definitely have to be raised up from the bottom photo. The top photo is probably more inline with the proper height. Obviously there would be alot of alignment and clearances to think through before I would think about actually slicing or dicing these guards.

 

[kingfish254]

The more I study the Monark racks, the more I want to save those for the future to test out my original bike tank idea with them. I may even get a frame builder to build a frame around the shape.

No other work or mockups, but I did just notice that my build thread crossed over 10K views. That's what I get for continuously scrolling back over my mockup pics thinking them through.

 

[Chad T]

Ri

 

[ingola]

Some of you may have noticed the little doodad attached to the pipe bars. Oddball gave me the mirror that he had on these bars as well. I don't believe I'll use it, but wanted to test it out. Once I had it mounted I could tell right away it was for British traffic. If you'll notice it's mounted on the right side of the bike, which would be the car side if you where barreling through the streets of London.

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Kingfish gets a mirror and we'll be getting selfies

 

[kingfish254]

Oddball (the maker of my handlebars) hasn't been on RRB for a while, but some may know him from FB, IG, and elsewhere as OCDConnection. I was honored to be able to ride his London Underground bike around London with him a couple of Christmases ago.

Look closely and you will see what inspired his map correct build.

 

[kingfish254]

Ri

 

[kingfish254]

Pulled FOOLIGAN out to work on some of the mechanicals today, but tested a couple of other chainguards.

Muscle bike guard

And Colson turkey wing guard