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An extension that follows the look of the existing dropouts would probably work best on that frame.

That is what I was thinking. I have an occ that I can chop up than could probably be trimmed down

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Or make up a pair just like the original to bolt on, only oversize enough to work.

I am pretty sure I can cut a chunk out of the OCC dropouts that will line up at the same angle and bolt onto the existing drops. especially since I can also use the dropstand hole as a mounting hole for the bolt up.

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Thanks for digging those up for me. Both are very cool.



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Very cool. I can see there was room for improvement, but the method seems legit to me.
Cool to see @locojoe's face again too.

This won’t wok on chrome moly frames, gotta be mild steel.

This old Elgin is made well, but I don't think it's Chromo :D

Nice!

@aka_locojoe needs to come back and hang out with us

I agree!
 
Just a thought, but before you spend all of the energy forcing those tires into the frame; Have you considered going with a set of tires that will fit the frame instead? Believe me I understand the appeal of those tires (been there, done that) but I had to back out of using them on my X53 for the same reason.

I found these tires on epay that worked and still had a nice beefy look in my opinion. I believe they are 2.35 (I can check that).

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This old Elgin is made well, but I don't think it's Chromo :D
Doesn’t fit, chain stays too close to the tire.
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Keeping the chain stays attached to the BB and keeping the rear triangle in its original place.

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Sometimes you have to use a sledge hammer to dent or bow the stays with the 2x2 square tubing.
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Thirty eight mm tires now fit this old road bike frame.
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Just a thought, but before you spend all of the energy forcing those tires into the frame; Have you considered going with a set of tires that will fit the frame instead? Believe me I understand the appeal of those tires (been there, done that) but I had to back out of using them on my X53 for the same reason.

I found these tires on epay that worked and still had a nice beefy look in my opinion. I believe they are 2.35 (I can check that).

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Thanks brother, but I don't feel like I'm bogged down yet. I am going to try the dropout extension and not the chainstay pinch. I think it will be fairly straightforward (he says hopefully :D ). I've got plenty of tire options in the stash already. Even these Vans Cults

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Or some Project346 boardtracker tires in gray, cream, of total black. (Plus other that I have hoarded over the years :D )

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Keeping the chain stays attached to the BB and keeping the rear triangle in its original place.

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Something you have to use a sledge hammer to dent or bow the stays with the 2x2 square tubing.
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Thirty eight mm tires now fit this old road bike frame.
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Thanks man, cool process, but I don't believe I will need to go to that extreme on this build.
 
Rolled FOOLIGAN back out yesterday and noticed that I must have pinched the rear tube since it was flat. I'll fix that later.

I wanted to play around with some forks again.

  • The Evanaction is still an option since it turns out the bolts under the fork were only there for a fender, so there shouldn't be any clearance issues.
  • The early waterfall beehive is still an option.
  • Forgot that I had this Rollfast/Snyder beehive. This is similar to the fork I used on Flexy back in BO7, but this one has the more cylindrical spring and is just like the springers on the collectable Hopalong Cassidy bikes.
  • Crusty later beehive that I've had from @wildcats old 53 CWC build.
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I tested the Rollfast first. I didnt completely mount the wheel to it because it is a major ordeal with these unique forks. I just tested for width clearance and then semi mocked it for a side profile.

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Next I installed the Evanaction again. I still like the vibe with this one. Another good thing about this fork is that I don't have to worry about the tire locking up on the fork during compression. It has more of a knee action to it.

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I am leaning towards a crusty build this year and the clean orange paint on the waterfall beehive has been throwing my eyes off. So I remembered that I've had @Wildcat 's old 53 CWC bare metal build for over 10 years now. Well, because it was bare metal, it's more bare crusty now.

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