Ok so when I decided to swap rims and use a different one then what I measured spokes for I figured there'd be a bit of wiggle room. Ah...no. Spokes sre too short to do 3 cross so I tried 2 cross (my first time with that pattern) nope now they're a bit too long, probably 3/8" or so. I'm not wasting them or buying more. So I dug out my tiny threader. There's only 36 of them, how long can it really take? lol.
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I figure I'll put a good 1/2 inch or so more threads on and retry the 2 cross pattern. More threads should allow me to thread on past the inside of the rim and then nip them off with a bit of file or grind after that.