Re: Bare Minimum.
thanks for taking the time to post the overhaul. Interesting.
thanks for taking the time to post the overhaul. Interesting.
Bare Minimum. FINISHED
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Re: Bare Minimum.
I guess the way I look at it is, I would rather put 5 or so hours into something like that hub rather than buy a different one.
My reasons are:
1) I dont want to spend much money because I may as well make use of the extra time I have.
2) I enjoy taking things apart and seeing how they work because I may be able to take that mechanical knowlege and use it later on.
3) I hate to see something like a 1960's hub as unique as those kickbacks are (and they arent made anymore), and just throw it away.
It bothers me to think about how many use-able parts have been thrown away to scrap. Things that are made now, are made to be thrown away
which is why I love recreating bikes with qualities from the past. It make me happy that I took a bike/hub that was literally headed to the scrap and I am enabling it to live on for another 40 years possibly.
ANYWAY...
I have some awesome things to show you that I did today.
this was from yesterday actually, but I am pleased with the turnout :mrgreen:
some really bad bictures but I hope to use these rims. I am really loving the paint that is already on them... the tires are only temporary.
and what I am really excited about. p.s. this idea was stolen from Dr. Tankenstein. Thanks!
the post clamp isnt contacting like it should but It seems to be pretty rigid anyway. I will see if this poses any problems once I can actually put weight on it.
Im not sure exactly how I will be able to secure it to the bike yet. I might end up bending the "bottom" crank arm straight down using a heating torch. what do you guys think?
I guess the way I look at it is, I would rather put 5 or so hours into something like that hub rather than buy a different one.
My reasons are:
1) I dont want to spend much money because I may as well make use of the extra time I have.
2) I enjoy taking things apart and seeing how they work because I may be able to take that mechanical knowlege and use it later on.
3) I hate to see something like a 1960's hub as unique as those kickbacks are (and they arent made anymore), and just throw it away.
It bothers me to think about how many use-able parts have been thrown away to scrap. Things that are made now, are made to be thrown away
which is why I love recreating bikes with qualities from the past. It make me happy that I took a bike/hub that was literally headed to the scrap and I am enabling it to live on for another 40 years possibly. ANYWAY...
I have some awesome things to show you that I did today.
this was from yesterday actually, but I am pleased with the turnout :mrgreen:
some really bad bictures but I hope to use these rims. I am really loving the paint that is already on them... the tires are only temporary.
and what I am really excited about. p.s. this idea was stolen from Dr. Tankenstein. Thanks!
the post clamp isnt contacting like it should but It seems to be pretty rigid anyway. I will see if this poses any problems once I can actually put weight on it.
Im not sure exactly how I will be able to secure it to the bike yet. I might end up bending the "bottom" crank arm straight down using a heating torch. what do you guys think?
Re: Bare Minimum.
That is really cool! I have a crank off an old Columbia that was run over, so one side is bent...that would be a great way to recycle it! Great build thread! I'm watching this one closely from here out!
Craiggo said:...and what I am really excited about. p.s. this idea was stolen from Dr. Tankenstein. Thanks!
the post clamp isnt contacting like it should but It seems to be pretty rigid anyway. I will see if this poses any problems once I can actually put weight on it.
Im not sure exactly how I will be able to secure it to the bike yet. I might end up bending the "bottom" crank arm straight down using a heating torch. what do you guys think?
That is really cool! I have a crank off an old Columbia that was run over, so one side is bent...that would be a great way to recycle it! Great build thread! I'm watching this one closely from here out!
Re: Bare Minimum.
Are you going to be able to put the crank into the post on the seat side? You could always shorten the arm a bit. Good eye for the aesthetics of the "moto" genre. Good thing, 'cause given the bike's condition, a "performance" build would probably kill that frame. Good save on the hub, and not a minute too soon. 8)
Are you going to be able to put the crank into the post on the seat side? You could always shorten the arm a bit. Good eye for the aesthetics of the "moto" genre. Good thing, 'cause given the bike's condition, a "performance" build would probably kill that frame. Good save on the hub, and not a minute too soon. 8)
Re: Bare Minimum.
I figure that if I heat up the lower crank arm and get it straight with the threaded section, I could grind the oblong edges off and make it just small enough to fit into the tube. Note that the old tube from the frame is cut off at frame because I couldn't get it out. I will probably weld the crank arm in the frame to secure it. I don't see it being adjustable ever again.
deorman said:
I figure that if I heat up the lower crank arm and get it straight with the threaded section, I could grind the oblong edges off and make it just small enough to fit into the tube. Note that the old tube from the frame is cut off at frame because I couldn't get it out. I will probably weld the crank arm in the frame to secure it. I don't see it being adjustable ever again.
CCR
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Re: Bare Minimum.
ever think of sticking a piece of magnesium on the bottom of that rear fender ? Awesome stuff so far man, big pat on the back for saving that hub too :shock: seat post looks awesome, its like seeing a pipe and fitting contraption but way cooler !!!
ever think of sticking a piece of magnesium on the bottom of that rear fender ? Awesome stuff so far man, big pat on the back for saving that hub too :shock: seat post looks awesome, its like seeing a pipe and fitting contraption but way cooler !!!
Re: Bare Minimum.
I may be wrong, but I think he means to use it as a sparker as you ride along... The magnesium would spark as it scrapes along the road.
Like I said though, I may be wrong...
Luke.
I may be wrong, but I think he means to use it as a sparker as you ride along... The magnesium would spark as it scrapes along the road.
Like I said though, I may be wrong...
Luke.
Re: Bare Minimum.
I cleaned up the fenders today and discovered that they arent matching :x I think I can get them close to matching with a little manual aging though. I really really really like the design on the rear fender. I was afraid I would rub it off when cleaning it but the old paint held up :mrgreen: . they are not perfect yet but I got the bulk of it cleaned up. 8) 8)
I took a hack saw to the old seatpost and cut a new slit in it so It can clamp again. I dont think I will need to weld it anymore
does anyone think I need to reinforce this? Im pretty sur I do, but I dont know the best way to go about it :?
I cleaned up the fenders today and discovered that they arent matching :x I think I can get them close to matching with a little manual aging though. I really really really like the design on the rear fender. I was afraid I would rub it off when cleaning it but the old paint held up :mrgreen: . they are not perfect yet but I got the bulk of it cleaned up. 8) 8)
I took a hack saw to the old seatpost and cut a new slit in it so It can clamp again. I dont think I will need to weld it anymore
does anyone think I need to reinforce this? Im pretty sur I do, but I dont know the best way to go about it :?
Re: Bare Minimum.
I would say split tubing welded, but you need it to bent to match the bend in the stay. Even if you manage, I wouldn't be hopping cubs with it. It's pretty far gone. Once you open a tube like that, it oxidizes like crazy.
I would say split tubing welded, but you need it to bent to match the bend in the stay. Even if you manage, I wouldn't be hopping cubs with it. It's pretty far gone. Once you open a tube like that, it oxidizes like crazy.
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Does it not look oxidized already? hahaha! thanks, I will talk to my uncle about it 8)
deorman said:I would say split tubing welded, but you need it to bent to match the bend in the stay. Even if you manage, I wouldn't be hopping cubs with it. It's pretty far gone. Once you open a tube like that, it oxidizes like crazy.
Does it not look oxidized already? hahaha! thanks, I will talk to my uncle about it 8)
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Yep, definetly think you need to reinforce that. Deormans idea of finding some pipe that would fit over it, bending it to the right shape and then splitting it lengthways to place it over the area is probably the best way to do it...
A way that would look better is to cut it apart and insert solid round bar inside and weld it to the tube at the joints and some spot welds through drilled holes further away too, however to do this you would have to be very carefull getting everthing back straight and true, that's why the first idea is probably better.
Depends how confident you are with a welder and stringline...
Luke.
Yep, definetly think you need to reinforce that. Deormans idea of finding some pipe that would fit over it, bending it to the right shape and then splitting it lengthways to place it over the area is probably the best way to do it...
A way that would look better is to cut it apart and insert solid round bar inside and weld it to the tube at the joints and some spot welds through drilled holes further away too, however to do this you would have to be very carefull getting everthing back straight and true, that's why the first idea is probably better.
Depends how confident you are with a welder and stringline...
Luke.
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I was able to meet up with my uncle this afternoon. He owns the welder and he usually knows what he is doing haha. he helped me fill in the rust holes, and he got my 'crankpost' welded up. he said that it would've weakened the crank too much if we would've gone with the heating method.
Its not as clean as I expected, but I think I can work with it. If this design fails, I have a plan b.
I am fairly happy with the way this turned out. Its a little rough, and it took away the patina, but there was no other way and It should serve its purpose
We slid two bolts in the tubing as reinforcement and he filled it in.
a little touch up to do, but I am pretty happy I got those things out of the way today. 8)
I was able to meet up with my uncle this afternoon. He owns the welder and he usually knows what he is doing haha. he helped me fill in the rust holes, and he got my 'crankpost' welded up. he said that it would've weakened the crank too much if we would've gone with the heating method.
Its not as clean as I expected, but I think I can work with it. If this design fails, I have a plan b.
I am fairly happy with the way this turned out. Its a little rough, and it took away the patina, but there was no other way and It should serve its purpose
We slid two bolts in the tubing as reinforcement and he filled it in.
a little touch up to do, but I am pretty happy I got those things out of the way today. 8)
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Great looking touch up on the frame :wink:
Great looking touch up on the frame :wink:
